Chiefs Judge Berman is a good old fashioned jackass - Page 4

Red Dawg · 08-19-2015, 08:30 PM

The fact that he seems to be leaning towards pissing all over the power the commissioner has by siding with Brady and all his bullshit. The CBA point blank gives Goodell authority to do exactly what he has done. Period! What the hell does all the tiny holes in the evidence matter? It shouldn't. Balls were deflated, Brady is mentioned by the guys that were doing via their phones, he failed to help the investigation in every way he could so Goodell suspended him.

He has the power to do it in the CBA and this jackass thousand year old judge doesn't care. He's acting like Brady is some victim when he's just a whiny baby. No other player has been given such treatment by the Players association or a judge. ****ing pitiful that some can just do whatever they want and walk away just because of who they are.

Total bullshit.

BlackOp · 08-20-2015, 12:09 AM

I used to really respect Brady...too much sketchy shit went down for him to be 100% innocent. Occam razor principle is in full effect here...not that interested in how much his million dollar law team tries to point the light away. Didnt do anything..dont obstruct an investigation... as anything they find would only makes things worse for you...very simple. If you are trying to clear your name/image....you dont complicate it. Say "see...this is bullshit"..and roll. Brady has an image that's worth 100's of millions in the future..you would think he would want to be cooperative? His actions dont match up...he would be going out of his way to defend it.

His lawyers told him to destroy his phone..no doubt in my mind. Then they used their forked tongues to distort common sense.

**Dave Lane** · 08-20-2015, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Doesn't matter what Brady wants. It is what is in the CBA. If Brady didn't want to be under the rules established by the CBA, he should of quit the NFL Players Union.

You do understand the the RULE for altering equipment per the collective bargaining agreement is a maximum fine of $25,000 and no suspension? Yes?

**Dave Lane** · 08-20-2015, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eDave

He'll miss 2

Nope he will not be suspended.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-20-2015, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

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His lawyers told him to destroy his phone..no doubt in my mind. Then they used their forked tongues to distort common sense.

****in' A, could you know less about this?

Jamie · 08-20-2015, 12:41 AM

I'm basically just rooting against an equitable settlement at this point, I want one side or the other to get ****ed. Preferably the league, because it'd (hopefully) be another step toward getting Goodell fired, which is the greatest good that could come out of this. But if it went the other way it wouldn't hurt my feelings or anything.

**LoneWolf** · 08-20-2015, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

No proof.

Per the CBA, they don't have to have proof "beyond a reasonable doubt".

-King- · 08-20-2015, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I hope Brady walks.

Me too tbh.
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Amnorix · 08-20-2015, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

The fact that he seems to be leaning towards pissing all over the power the commissioner has by siding with Brady and all his bullshit. The CBA point blank gives Goodell authority to do exactly what he has done. Period! What the hell does all the tiny holes in the evidence matter? It shouldn't. Balls were deflated, Brady is mentioned by the guys that were doing via their phones, he failed to help the investigation in every way he could so Goodell suspended him.

He has the power to do it in the CBA and this jackass thousand year old judge doesn't care. He's acting like Brady is some victim when he's just a whiny baby. No other player has been given such treatment by the Players association or a judge. ****ing pitiful that some can just do whatever they want and walk away just because of who they are.

Total bullshit.

Berman is just pointing out how amazingly flawed this entire process was. Applying rules to Brady that have never been applied to players before, handing down punishments that aren't set forth in the rules and are completely disproportionate to any punishment handed down before for similar infractions, preventing witnesses from being interviewed, saying one thing to the public to spin public perception while doing/saying other things in court and in private, the whole thing has been a circus.

Seriously, whatever happens to Brady, Goodell's "ability" to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, needs to stop. I can't imagine the players not going to war over this when the CBA is up.

Amnorix · 08-20-2015, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Except he isn't being suspended for deflating footballs. He is being suspended for not cooperating with the investigation.

That would be great if anyone actually KNEW that. The NFL just mushes it all together. It seems to be both, based on what Pash said in court yesterday.

Equipment violation -- $25,000 fine (per rules). Biggest punishment in NFL history for failure to cooperate? $50,000.

Brady -- 4 game suspension. ?! WTF?

Berman is rightly troubled by the failure to have a good process, and by the lack of consistency.

NOTE: this does NOT mean Brady wins. Berman may ultimately uphold the suspension because of the HUGE deference arbitrators get, but he's clearly massively troubled by the entire process, which is what I've been saying all along.

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Dante84 · 08-20-2015, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Except he isn't being suspended for deflating footballs. He is being suspended for not cooperating with the investigation.

Right, and the other time it happened, it was Favre, who paid a small fine.

King_Chief_Fan · 08-20-2015, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Berman is just pointing out how amazingly flawed this entire process was. Applying rules to Brady that have never been applied to players before, handing down punishments that aren't set forth in the rules and are completely disproportionate to any punishment handed down before for similar infractions, preventing witnesses from being interviewed, saying one thing to the public to spin public perception while doing/saying other things in court and in private, the whole thing has been a circus.

Seriously, whatever happens to Brady, Goodell's "ability" to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, needs to stop. I can't imagine the players not going to war over this when the CBA is up.

I hate agreeing with a pats fan.....but, this.

**LoneWolf** · 08-20-2015, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

Right, and the other time it happened, it was Favre, who paid a small fine.

Not cooperating in an investigation into an incident that was not related to football is not the same as not cooperating with an investigation into an incident involving the integrity of the game.

In other words, dick pics < deflated footballs.

FringeNC · 08-20-2015, 07:45 AM

People still believe balls were deflated? Seriously? I hope you guys don't vote.

Science completely exonerates the Patriots.

Red Dawg · 08-20-2015, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DA_T_84

Right, and the other time it happened, it was Favre, who paid a small fine.

Favre shit was not a direct hit to the games integrity of which the commish is there to keep as his first priority. Definitely more of a civil matter. This was the AFC Championship game and clearly on going through the season based on the the texts.

Brady hiding crap and not cooperating is way different.

08-19-2015, 08:30 PM
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4522858	Judge Berman is a good old fashioned jackass The fact that he seems to be leaning towards pissing all over the power the commissioner has by siding with Brady and all his bullshit. The CBA point blank gives Goodell authority to do exactly what he has done. Period! What the hell does all the tiny holes in the evidence matter? It shouldn't. Balls were deflated, Brady is mentioned by the guys that were doing via their phones, he failed to help the investigation in every way he could so Goodell suspended him. He has the power to do it in the CBA and this jackass thousand year old judge doesn't care. He's acting like Brady is some victim when he's just a whiny baby. No other player has been given such treatment by the Players association or a judge. ****ing pitiful that some can just do whatever they want and walk away just because of who they are. Total bullshit.
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08-20-2015, 12:09 AM	#46
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $5845267	I used to really respect Brady...too much sketchy shit went down for him to be 100% innocent. Occam razor principle is in full effect here...not that interested in how much his million dollar law team tries to point the light away. Didnt do anything..dont obstruct an investigation... as anything they find would only makes things worse for you...very simple. If you are trying to clear your name/image....you dont complicate it. Say "see...this is bullshit"..and roll. Brady has an image that's worth 100's of millions in the future..you would think he would want to be cooperative? His actions dont match up...he would be going out of his way to defend it. His lawyers told him to destroy his phone..no doubt in my mind. Then they used their forked tongues to distort common sense. Last edited by BlackOp; 08-20-2015 at 12:29 AM..
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08-20-2015, 12:41 AM	#50
Jamie Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $1118503	I'm basically just rooting against an equitable settlement at this point, I want one side or the other to get ****ed. Preferably the league, because it'd (hopefully) be another step toward getting Goodell fired, which is the greatest good that could come out of this. But if it went the other way it wouldn't hurt my feelings or anything.
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1436014	People still believe balls were deflated? Seriously? I hope you guys don't vote. Science completely exonerates the Patriots.
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