KC Chiefs Drafting Alex Smith's replacement "soon" ?

[Ming the Merciless]

I swear to god this guy is an idiot

http://www.hngn.com/articles/93037/2...ement-soon.htm

Kansas City Chiefs RUMORS: Reid Likely Drafting Alex Smith's Replacement Soon?


Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith may never be the most physically gifted player on an NFL field, but he's got enough grit, moxie and veteran savvy to produce enough points to keep the Chiefs in the game on pretty much any given Sunday.


While Smith has enjoyed something of a career resurgence under Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, the successes the two men have enjoyed together may actually serve to shorten Smith's tenure in the end.

"Expectations have risen since Smith and Kansas City had a huge turnaround to reach the postseason in 2013, Reid's first season there, and Smith's big contract mandates he'll be around for a few more years," writes Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports. "But watching back-up Chase Daniel scampering around and making big plays in a Week 17 win over San Diego, one that eliminated the Chargers from the playoffs, had my wheels turning at least a bit and I wouldn't be shocked to see this franchise looking at quarterbacks in the higher rounds a year from now."

The 31-year-old Smith is entering the second year of a four-year, $68 million contract extension. His dead cap hit for next season is $40.4 million and $24.9 million in 2016, meaning Smith will remain with the team for at least the next two years.

Beyond that, his cap hits for the final two years of the deal are $16.9 million and $20.6 million, but cutting him would cause the Chiefs to incur dead cap penalties of just $7.2 million in 2017 and $3.6 million in 2018.
In 2014, his second season in Kansas City, Smith threw for 3,265 yards on 303 completions for 18 touchdowns, six interceptions and a 93.4 quarterback rating.

Smith is dependable and smart and if the Chiefs boast a strong enough running game with Jamaal Charles, De'Anthony Thomas and Knile Davis, he can certainly manage Kansas City into the playoffs.

Winning a postseason game seems a questionable proposition though, for a quarterback who struggles to push the ball downfield and managed to go all of 2014 without connecting with a single one of his wide receivers for a touchdown.

With the addition of Jeremy Maclin in free agency and the drafting of Chris Conley - and when considering simple percentages - it's highly unlikely Smith will manage to let another full NFL season pass without tossing a touchdown to a wideout.

Still, Smith is and will always be limited as a signal-caller - even if he brings the Chiefs to the postseason again after just missing out in 2014, if he and Reid are unable to bring fans in Kansas City a playoff victory, consistently strong regular season efforts are going to start seeming hollow and altogether empty.

This isn't to suggest that Smith and the Chiefs can't make their way into the postseason and emerge victorious from a contest or two, but this is a quarterback and offense driven NFL and Smith simply will never be able to contend with the league's elite like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck.

It may not be a first-round pick and it likely won't come next season, but Reid and the Chiefs will be forced to look for another long-term answer at quarterback at some point because Smith, as strong as he's been since joining Kansas City, is not a Super Bowl-winning signal-caller and Daniels, despite the strong showing to end last season, doesn't seem to be the answer either.

So it wont be in the 2016 draft but it will happen soon you guys!!!
Just have some patience....LOL


YAY?

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Based on my ability to see that Murray is the best QB prospect Reid has had since McNabb and a perfect fit for his offense. There's a reason Dungy and Gruden were drooling over this guy. Gruden and Reid have similar philosophies so I have no doubt Reid feels the same way about him.

Just going to toss this out there again; what in the past has shown that John Gruden and / or Tony Dungy have any sort insight as to what makes a great NFL QB? Seriously, the opinions of two defensive minded coaches that never developed a QB is the benchmark?!?

Gruden won a SB with his defense, running game and a game manager at QB.
Dungy was brought into Indy to take care of the D while Manning handled the O, and it worked out well for the Colts.

So again I ask, why do are you putting so much weight into their opinions? Might as well ask Marty as well. Geez.....

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Ebolapox

uh, nothing personal, but some random internet guy's determination of how amazing a QB is isn't exactly an opinion that 100% of people are going to consider a worthy opinion. they're like assholes, everyone has one.

as for the experts, feh. gruden never met at QB he didn't love and dungy knows about as much about what makes a great nfl QB as he does about raising boys that don't commit suicide. peyton manning was his offensive coordinator for all intents and purposes, and his tampa bay offenses were abysmal (those defenses, though, were stellar).

I seem to recall 'experts' (as in, draft experts and the like) that told us ricky stanzi was tom brady version 2.0. hell, jaws (ron jaworski) told us that THE CHIEFS FINALLY HAVE THEIR FRANCHISE QB in reference to tyler thigpen.

grain of salt.

I understand nobody is going to value my opinion, but it doesn't change yhe fact that I know better than 90% of this board bc I actually do my ****ing homework before I give my opinions/debate. I'm just tired of people with absolutely no knowledge on the subject shooting down optimism bc its cool to hate everything Chiefs on CP and have no hope for the future.

Also, with Gruden it was clear their was a genuine man crush for Murray. Go back and watch his QB camp with him.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Dingy and Gruden = some ****ing moron on CP that hasn't watched Murray and is just trying to bring some negativity into an optimistic outlook

sorry, both have about the same level of expertise on the subject. go ask a lot of guys about ricky stanzi. hell, how many of us wet our pants for david klingler/rick mirer/byron leftwich/joey harrington/david carr/tim couch/INSERT RANDOM LATE ROUND CHIEFS PICK?

I get it. you have a crush. I want the kid to work out too, but don't think your youtube watching makes him any likelier to be our franchise QB than (steve stenstrom/matt blundin/pat barnes/ricky stanzi/brodie croyle/ted white/steve pelleur/mark vlassic/etc). sorry.

mark it down, I'll eat crow GLADLY if he really is the answer--but ALL SIGNS POINT TO another great white hope.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I understand nobody is going to value my opinion, but it doesn't change he fact that I know better than 90% of this board. I'm just tired of people with absolutely no knowledge on the subject shooting down optimism bc its cool to hate everything Chiefs on CP and have no hope for the future.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Dungy and Gruden >>>> some ****ing moron on CP that hasn't watched Murray and is just trying to bring some negativity into an optimistic outlook

Gruden and Reid are WCO guys from the same tree. If you don't think what Gruden thinks about Murray is a good indicator than you're ****ing clueless like I said.

Nothing but personal attacks in lieu of anything, anything at all, besides a coach who rode Peyton manning to the super bowl and a reputed QB guru who never developed one himself. You have nothing. Be optimistic all you like, but we've heard it all before.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Lee

Just going to toss this out there again; what in the past has shown that John Gruden and / or Tony Dungy have any sort insight as to what makes a great NFL QB? Seriously, the opinions of two defensive minded coaches that never developed a QB is the benchmark?!?

Gruden won a SB with his defense, running game and a game manager at QB.
Dungy was brought into Indy to take care of the D while Manning handled the O, and it worked out well for the Colts.

So again I ask, why do are you putting so much weight into their opinions? Might as well ask Marty as well. Geez.....

The fact that you just called Gruden a defensive minded coach is exactly what I meant by what I said in my other post. You ****ing morons have no clue.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I understand nobody is going to value my opinion, but it doesn't change yhe fact that I know better than 90% of this board bc I actually do my ****ing homework before I give my opinions/debate. I'm just tired of people with absolutely no knowledge on the subject shooting down optimism bc its cool to hate everything Chiefs on CP and have no hope for the future.

Also, with Gruden it was clear their was a genuine man crush for Murray. Go back and watch his QB camp with him.

I don't think you understand what a fact is.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Don't take that as an arrogant comment. What I mean is only 10% of this board actually does their own ****ing research and watches these guys in order to have their own opinions on them as prospects. You my friend are in that 10%.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Brock

I don't think you understand what a fact is.

Its a fact that you have no ****ing clue, which is why you haven't said anything objective about Murray. So how the **** am I supposed to take your opinion serious when debating about him as our QBOTF. All you know is he's a 5th round pick, so with that you are just playing a #'s game.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Don't take that as an arrogant comment. What I mean is only 10% of this board actually does their own ****ing research and watches these guys in order to have their own opinions on the, as prospects.

And by you stating that you have watched "tape" of Aaron Murray....are you referring to all 22 footage or Youtube videos?

[Brock]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You called Gruden a defensive minded coach. It is a fact that you have no ****ing clue and are a representation of the average CP poster.

Can you read, sir? I said no such thing. You may be slightly less intelligent than you think you are.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The fact that you just called Gruden a defensive minded coach is exactly what I meant by what I said in my other post. You ****ing morons have no clue.

honestly, gruden is an interesting guy. he reminds me of brian billick--a guy who led one of the more dynamic offenses of their time (billick had randy moss, cris carter and a deluge of THROW IT DEEP qbs, recall) (gruden, obviously, had rich gannon/rice/brown) who went elsewhere and won a super bowl on the back of an amazing defense (baltimore/tampa bay) and NEVER AGAIN showed the reason their calling card was legit (offensive guru).

can we call him an offensive minded coach if he never had any offenses worth a damn outside of hall of fame talent and a few seasons of WOW rich gannon?

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And by you stating that you have watched "tape" of Aaron Murray....are you referring to all 22 footage or Youtube videos?

I record games throughout the year for myself and have watched Murray and the Bulldogs since his freshman year. You don't need all 22 footage to evaluate a QB with that much tape.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Brock

Can you read, sir? I said no such thing. You may be slightly less intelligent than you think you are.

I got you mixed up with the guy at the top of the page and I changed post accordingly. You still don't have a ****ing clue. You haven't even made 1 comment about Murray's game. already.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I got you mixed up with the guy at the top of the page and I changed post accordingly. You still don't have a ****ing clue. You haven't even made 1 comment about Murray's game. already.

How can I comment on something nobody has seen? What he did in college is irrelevant. He looked fine in some preseason mop up duty. That's about all there is to say at this point.