2015 Rock Hall Of Fame Class Includes Lou Reed, Joan Jett, Green Day

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

W.A.S.P. gets stung by news of shunned RRHOF induction

Would have been better with the Scorpions. Try harder.

[Crying Ramtard]

LOL Green Day gets in but the Smiths don't ? what a joke.

Green Day is just a rip off candy wannabe post punk band with catchy riffs here and there

[alpha_omega]

Joan Jett...well, at least we know they aren't selecting based on breast size.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by alpha_omega

Joan Jett...well, at least we know they aren't selecting based on breast size.

Meat Loaf isn't in.

[Easy 6]

Riddles was cool, a good sing along, it reminded me quite a bit of Social Distortion... liked the Rumsfeld "known unknowns" spiel in the back ground at the end.

[big nasty kcnut]

Still pissed that depeche mode not in yet and new order.

[Coochie liquor]

I wish Green Days plane would take a dive into the Everglades! Bunch of bitches!
I won ticket for my son and daughter to go see them with a backstage meet n greet prob 6 years ago. When I dropped them off at the arena eat there were roughly 40 people that had also won. Many had been following them for a few shows, ALL were decked out in Green Day everything. Lots of seemingly big fans of there's. Their bus was out back, so they were there. But when it come time for the meet n greet they announced that GD didn't have time to come meet them. ****ing bullshit! They could have easily made 5 minutes to come say hi to their fans, but they were douches. Then when they did their sound check, all the people who won the contest were informed they couldn't take any pics or even have their cameras/phones out. Those guys aren't punk, they're pussys who don't give a **** about their fans or where they came from. They can take their shitty bubble gum fake punk music and **** right the **** off!!
/rant

[Easy 6]

Why does that story not surprise me, never liked those guys at all... they may have sold a lot of records, but first ballot HOFers?

PLEASE.

KISS sold way more records and it took them forever to be let in... Green Day sucks ass.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

Why does that story not surprise me, never liked those guys at all... they may have sold a lot of records, but first ballot HOFers?

Lest you forget

It's something unpredictable but in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life.

Don't that make you want to exchange wistful glances with your HS chums?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Lest you forget

It's something unpredictable but in the end is right
I hope you had the time of your life.

Don't that make you want to exchange wistful glances with your HS chums?

it makes me want to pull my armpit hair out in painful handfuls, **** that song... those guys are the definition of cookie cutter, paint by numbers "rock".

[Omaha]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

it makes me want to pull my armpit hair out in painful handfuls, **** that song... those guys are the definition of cookie cutter, paint by numbers "rock".

In summary:

Offspring < Metallica < Green Day < Joan Jett < peopleatyourlocalguitarcenteronanygivensaturday

Discuss.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

KISS sold way more records and it took them forever to be let in... Green Day sucks ass.

KISS reportedly sold more than 100 million records but that's nonsense. Green Day's sold 85 million and counting.

The reason it's nonsense? Soundscan didn't exist in the 70's, while Soundscan counted every point of sale (save for a few Mom & Pop shops) since the early 90's. So, Green Day's sales figures are accurate and the KISS sales figures are not.

Why aren't the KISS sales accurate? The main reason is that the RIAA, the organization that awards Gold, Platinum and Diamond certifications doesn't award due to album sales. It awards on the amount of albums shipped.

Casablanca Records, the original record label of KISS, was absolutely notorious for over shipping records to get certifications. The old adage was "Ship Gold, Return Platinum". So in essentially, Casablanca would ship out 1 million copies of a KISS record so that the RIAA would certify it as a Platinum record. Then, Casablanca would allow (actually, all record labels allow) Returns of 25% or more (and in some cases, 50%). But since the records were shipped and a certification awarded, the label didn't care if they received 50% of the merch back because they'd just sell it off to PX and record clubs (which already have a 25% reduced royalty rate and street price) or trash it altogether.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify. I have no dog in this hunt, as I never cared for either band. But I should mention that any act capable of reaching one million people, let alone, hundreds of millions of units worldwide, deserves respect.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

KISS reportedly sold more than 100 million records but that's nonsense. Green Day's sold 85 million and counting.

The reason it's nonsense? Soundscan didn't exist in the 70's, while Soundscan counted every point of sale (save for a few Mom & Pop shops) since the early 90's. So, Green Day's sales figures are accurate and the KISS sales figures are not.

Why aren't the KISS sales accurate? The main reason is that the RIAA, the organization that awards Gold, Platinum and Diamond certifications doesn't award due to album sales. It awards on the amount of albums shipped.

Casablanca Records, the original record label of KISS, was absolutely notorious for over shipping records to get certifications. The old adage was "Ship Gold, Return Platinum". So in essentially, Casablanca would ship out 1 million copies of a KISS record so that the RIAA would certify it as a Platinum record. Then, Casablanca would allow (actually, all record labels allow) Returns of 25% or more (and in some cases, 50%). But since the records were shipped and a certification awarded, the label didn't care if they received 50% of the merch back because they'd just sell it off to PX and record clubs (which already have a 25% reduced royalty rate and street price) or trash it altogether.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify. I have no dog in this hunt, as I never cared for either band. But I should mention that any act capable of reaching one million people, let alone, hundreds of millions of units worldwide, deserves respect.

It would obviously be stupid of me to argue any of this, you are right in your wheelhouse on this subject... but even considering Bogarts shenanigans, its impossible for me to imagine GD selling more albums than KISS.

I'm just glad you dont like Green Day

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

but even considering Bogarts shenanigans, its impossible for me to imagine GD selling more albums than KISS.

Well, I'm with you in that regard. I don't understand the appeal of Green Day, as they don't speak to me at all. Yet I've got friends the same age that absolutely love them.

I never cared for Nirvana, either. They're like a "dark" Cheap Trick. AIC and Soundgarden were my favorite artists during that period yet "Nevermind" sold more than 75 million records.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I never cared for Nirvana, either.

YOU ARE A DEAD MFER TO ME... LEARN TO SWIM, BITCH.

But c'mon, I can see the Cheap Trick label being applied to a few songs on Nevermind simply because of the higher production values (which Kurt hated)... but the stuff off Bleach, In Utero, Muddy Banks of the Wishkaw was so far removed from that deal its crazy, all of that was raw as roadkill real deal punk.