Chiefs Media starting to take "A Hard Look" at Andy Reid - Page 4

Chief Roundup · 12-09-2014, 07:59 PM

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The latest loss for the Kansas City Chiefs may be the hardest to reconcile. When a team struggles like they did in Arizona the entire organization needs to be ready to find the issues and correct them. Nothing is more corrosive to a team’s confidence than not knowing why its losing. It is the responsibility of both the players and staff.
Today, Andy Reid is in looking glass. I’ll discuss the players later this week in a special 2-part Chiefs’ Truths.

Evaluate Team including Andy Reid
John Dorsey was brought to Kansas City after Andy Reid was hired as Head Coach, supposedly on the recommendation of Reid. Now, he will be in the possibly difficult position of evaluating Reid’s performance leading the team.

There are 2 very disturbing trends.

The 2013 Kansas City Chiefs started 9-0 there first season on Reid’s leadership. Then came the bye week. After the bye, the Chiefs lost 6 of their next 8 games, bouncing from the playoffs in the first round (again). They were swept by Denver and San Diego and lost twice in three weeks to Indianapolis. For a squad that was young and somewhat cobbled together after the final roster cuts, it was a solid first season.

It’s a very big red flag to see the last 3 contests all come out as losses. It hints at 2014 repeating the pattern of 2014’s last 8 games where the Chiefs had two runs of back-to-back-to-back losses. The team was playing for a share of the AFC West lead 3 weeks ago and now will have to claw their way to be in position for the last Wildcard slot. To the eyes outside of the building at Arrowhead Drive, this is looking like a systemic issue with Reid and his staff fading as the season closes. Positions and even careers cannot withstand that kind of trend for long.

Stop saying “Its Fixable” and Fix It
The second trend seen in Kansas City has been a lack of answers. Reid has been unable to correct any of the issues with his offense. Alex Smith has been sacked and average of 3 times per game in 2014. Even worse, he’s had to deal with 11 sacks in the last 2 contests alone. Yet, there have been no personnel changes and no apparent scheme changes along the offensive line. One notable change was made to the wide receivers by getting some fresh blood, some old and some new, into the lineup. That was generally successful. (more on the players later this week in part 2)

Sutton did get a much better performance from his defensive line in Arizona. While Joe Mays bolstered the run defense while he was on the field, Josh Mauga and James-Michael Johnson continue to have assignment breakdowns that allow huge chunks of yardage. Overall his defense still was gashed by the run and unable to get off the field when it counted most. The secondary still has Ron Parker playing out of position at cornerback. Chris Owens has not been as advertised in the slot and Sutton, Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris have not been able to rebuild Marcus Copper’s confidence. At this point in the season, they defense could really benefit from a re-built Cooper.

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Yes, that is how many running plays Andy Reid called against the Cardinals. The imbalance in Reid’s offense has been a concern all season, regardless of how many men the defense puts in the box. However, it has hit critical mass in the last two contests. Against the Cardinals, he called only 21.8%

That is the lowest called run percentage of the season outside the opener versus the Titans.

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In fact, the called running play percentage has dropped in every contest since the last win versus Seattle. in Arizona, Charles was injured and had to leave the game. It was reasonable to not give him a full load the rest of the day.
That is why the Chiefs have Knile Davis. He is a more than capable stand-in for Charles and he’s proven it. He can catch and his more powerful running style can wear down a defense that is crowding the line with 8 men. Yet, Knile Davis got just 1 carry against Arizona.

After the Cardinals kicked a field goal to end their first drive of the second half, the Chiefs got the ball back leading 14-9. Charles gained 1 yard on first down. Then Reid proceeded to call 7 passing plays in a row. The last two plays resulted in the Fasano interference call and the Alex Smith interception. The play by Okafor to disengage and intercept a badly thrown pass was the turning point. Running the ball on any of the preceding 6 plays may have changed the outcome of the game. That fact rests squarely on Andy Reid.

Pepe Silvia · 12-09-2014, 09:37 PM

Take a long hard look at Reids cheeto stained fingers.

**Dave Lane** · 12-09-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Yep just like when we get cute inside the 5 yard line with JC in the back field.

Its all smiths fault. Reid is excused.

I understand you are a blind homer but here's some news for you. The opposing teams have figured out the Chiefs kryptonite. Sell out to stack the line of scrimmage, blitz Alex, cover the short routes make Alex beat you over the top. On 4-15 for the game they didn't play Alex in a prevent, they blitzed him. Alex spiked the ball we lose, That can not be put on Reid.

Reid is overly attached to Alex and getting the ball to Charles or Davis in space with short passes. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Does he call too many passes especially late in games, of course. Is the failure to execute plays Reids fault? Of course not.

Reerun_KC · 12-09-2014, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

I understand you are a blind homer but here's some news for you. The opposing teams have figured out the Chiefs kryptonite. Sell out to stack the line of scrimmage, blitz Alex, cover the short routes make Alex beat you over the top. On 4-15 for the game they didn't play Alex in a prevent, they blitzed him. Alex spiked the ball we lose, That can not be put on Reid.

Reid is overly attached to Alex and getting the ball to Charles or Davis in space with short passes. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Does he call too many passes especially late in games, of course. Is the failure to execute plays Reids fault? Of course not.

D I stopped reading after the blind Homer comment. Obviously you are hitting the pipe again.

**BigRedChief** · 12-09-2014, 10:24 PM

We should all be bitching about Charles being overused and burning him out, not underuse. Thats a Reid fail that continues this year.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2014, 10:32 PM

The truth of the matter is, Reid gets more out of this team than most coaches would, but he also manages to get less out of them through stupidity.

It's the enigma that is Andy Reid. Sadly. This team is by and large way overachieving their talent. But it's frustrating to watch them blow games they were surprisingly competitive in because of poor decision making.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-09-2014, 10:46 PM

Not sure Reid should be the one targeted. Let me finish lol...

Whether you like Reid/Alex Smith (even Dorsey) or not, you have to admit the trade was/is a little odd. Pass happy coach trades for ultimate limited game manager...that's some weird shit. The marriage doesn't make sense. For that, the odd play-calling and misusage of Charles he should be taken a look at obviously. Actually though, the same crap Reid is pulling here he did in Philly as well (horrible game/clock management). So Clark Hunt should be the one taken "A Hard Look" at. He knew what he was getting...or did he?

Reerun_KC · 12-09-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Not sure Reid should be the one targeted. Let me finish lol...

Whether you like Reid/Alex Smith (even Dorsey) or not, you have to admit the trade was/is a little odd. Pass happy coach trades for ultimate limited game manager...that's some weird shit. The marriage doesn't make sense. For that, the odd play-calling and misusage of Charles he should be taken a look at obviously. Actually though, the same crap Reid is pulling here he did in Philly as well. So Clark Hunt should be the one taken "A Hard Look" at. He knew what he was getting...or did he?

Reid = butts in the seats for an uneducated fan base. He was a safe hire that could restore mediocrity quickly. He brings hope and first round exits. Therefore tailgating and bbq fan base is happy.

**TimeForWasp** · 12-09-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Because it's guys like you that say "I believe in Reid"

Shut the **** up.

blsilks · 12-09-2014, 10:56 PM

This article seems to rip on the defense a bit. Considering the fact that our defense has kept us in most of the games despite the fact that our offense is neutered has been quite impressive. I think we should back off on the defense that still is missing a starting MLB and FS. This next man up argument is adorable.

**BigRedChief** · 12-09-2014, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Reid = butts in the seats for an uneducated fan base. He was a safe hire that could restore mediocrity quickly. He brings hope and first round exits. Therefore tailgating and bbq fan base is happy.

Reid was the best coach available that off season. He was not the safe pick like Herm was. Your off base on that part.

**Baby Lee** · 12-09-2014, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Mine is Reid - Sutton - Smith - Dorsey.

Dorsey - Injuries [nagging and season ending] - Illnesses - Reid - Sutton - Smith

chiefzilla1501 · 12-09-2014, 11:23 PM

I would much rather have Andy Reid on this team coaching a better QB than a better coach coaching Alex Smith.

Which is why I'm surprised that so many people want to put Smith above Reid.

In58men · 12-09-2014, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow

Shut the **** up.

Shut me up bitch

jspchief · 12-09-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Anyone wanna give out odds Clark makes the call to strip Andy of playcalling duties?

I think at this point, it's the best we can hope for. Either by Andy giving them up, or Dorsey/Clark taking them away.

Reid isn't going any where. Smith isn't going anywhere. The realistic best chance for improvement at this point is a change at O-coord/playcaller.

**TimeForWasp** · 12-10-2014, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58

Shut me up bitch

I have nothing against you except constant negative bitching. We are all bummed out about this situation.

12-09-2014, 07:59 PM
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $1501627	Media starting to take "A Hard Look" at Andy Reid http://profootballspot.com/_/nfl/afc...s-part-1-r5430 The latest loss for the Kansas City Chiefs may be the hardest to reconcile. When a team struggles like they did in Arizona the entire organization needs to be ready to find the issues and correct them. Nothing is more corrosive to a team’s confidence than not knowing why its losing. It is the responsibility of both the players and staff. Today, Andy Reid is in looking glass. I’ll discuss the players later this week in a special 2-part Chiefs’ Truths. Evaluate Team including Andy Reid John Dorsey was brought to Kansas City after Andy Reid was hired as Head Coach, supposedly on the recommendation of Reid. Now, he will be in the possibly difficult position of evaluating Reid’s performance leading the team. There are 2 very disturbing trends. The 2013 Kansas City Chiefs started 9-0 there first season on Reid’s leadership. Then came the bye week. After the bye, the Chiefs lost 6 of their next 8 games, bouncing from the playoffs in the first round (again). They were swept by Denver and San Diego and lost twice in three weeks to Indianapolis. For a squad that was young and somewhat cobbled together after the final roster cuts, it was a solid first season. It’s a very big red flag to see the last 3 contests all come out as losses. It hints at 2014 repeating the pattern of 2014’s last 8 games where the Chiefs had two runs of back-to-back-to-back losses. The team was playing for a share of the AFC West lead 3 weeks ago and now will have to claw their way to be in position for the last Wildcard slot. To the eyes outside of the building at Arrowhead Drive, this is looking like a systemic issue with Reid and his staff fading as the season closes. Positions and even careers cannot withstand that kind of trend for long. Stop saying “Its Fixable” and Fix It The second trend seen in Kansas City has been a lack of answers. Reid has been unable to correct any of the issues with his offense. Alex Smith has been sacked and average of 3 times per game in 2014. Even worse, he’s had to deal with 11 sacks in the last 2 contests alone. Yet, there have been no personnel changes and no apparent scheme changes along the offensive line. One notable change was made to the wide receivers by getting some fresh blood, some old and some new, into the lineup. That was generally successful. (more on the players later this week in part 2) Sutton did get a much better performance from his defensive line in Arizona. While Joe Mays bolstered the run defense while he was on the field, Josh Mauga and James-Michael Johnson continue to have assignment breakdowns that allow huge chunks of yardage. Overall his defense still was gashed by the run and unable to get off the field when it counted most. The secondary still has Ron Parker playing out of position at cornerback. Chris Owens has not been as advertised in the slot and Sutton, Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris have not been able to rebuild Marcus Copper’s confidence. At this point in the season, they defense could really benefit from a re-built Cooper. 13 Yes, that is how many running plays Andy Reid called against the Cardinals. The imbalance in Reid’s offense has been a concern all season, regardless of how many men the defense puts in the box. However, it has hit critical mass in the last two contests. Against the Cardinals, he called only 21.8% That is the lowest called run percentage of the season outside the opener versus the Titans. Posted Image In fact, the called running play percentage has dropped in every contest since the last win versus Seattle. in Arizona, Charles was injured and had to leave the game. It was reasonable to not give him a full load the rest of the day. That is why the Chiefs have Knile Davis. He is a more than capable stand-in for Charles and he’s proven it. He can catch and his more powerful running style can wear down a defense that is crowding the line with 8 men. Yet, Knile Davis got just 1 carry against Arizona. After the Cardinals kicked a field goal to end their first drive of the second half, the Chiefs got the ball back leading 14-9. Charles gained 1 yard on first down. Then Reid proceeded to call 7 passing plays in a row. The last two plays resulted in the Fasano interference call and the Alex Smith interception. The play by Okafor to disengage and intercept a badly thrown pass was the turning point. Running the ball on any of the preceding 6 plays may have changed the outcome of the game. That fact rests squarely on Andy Reid.
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Pepe Silvia MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $1364664	Take a long hard look at Reids cheeto stained fingers.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1534497	The truth of the matter is, Reid gets more out of this team than most coaches would, but he also manages to get less out of them through stupidity. It's the enigma that is Andy Reid. Sadly. This team is by and large way overachieving their talent. But it's frustrating to watch them blow games they were surprisingly competitive in because of poor decision making.
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12-09-2014, 10:46 PM	#51
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7888717	Not sure Reid should be the one targeted. Let me finish lol... Whether you like Reid/Alex Smith (even Dorsey) or not, you have to admit the trade was/is a little odd. Pass happy coach trades for ultimate limited game manager...that's some weird shit. The marriage doesn't make sense. For that, the odd play-calling and misusage of Charles he should be taken a look at obviously. Actually though, the same crap Reid is pulling here he did in Philly as well (horrible game/clock management). So Clark Hunt should be the one taken "A Hard Look" at. He knew what he was getting...or did he? __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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blsilks Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: na Casino cash: $10005010	This article seems to rip on the defense a bit. Considering the fact that our defense has kept us in most of the games despite the fact that our offense is neutered has been quite impressive. I think we should back off on the defense that still is missing a starting MLB and FS. This next man up argument is adorable. __________________ blsilks < Cassel
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12-09-2014, 11:23 PM	#57
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1534497	I would much rather have Andy Reid on this team coaching a better QB than a better coach coaching Alex Smith. Which is why I'm surprised that so many people want to put Smith above Reid.
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