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**gblowfish** · 08:24 AM

Twelve Things About Today's Game

12. This week you get an abbreviated version of "Ten Things" because tonight I have a baseball game to win. However, I've added a bonus two things so I can rail twice as long on our failure on Special Teams, and failure of Head Coaching. There was plenty of failure to go around today, but curiously, The Chiefs won the first quarter and the third quarter and only lost the game by five. They had a shot up until the final two minutes. I don't think anybody thought after pre-season that going in to SF would be a road win. Today it was winnable, the Chiefs were "Yosted" by Andy Reid.

11. Offensively, KC started out great. Nice mix of run and pass, clicked on third down conversions, saw Bowe, Charles and Fasano all do well with Kelce capping it off. Smith played ball control, Chiefs chewed up a good portion of the quarter, scored seven, and the D held the Niners to a 50+ field goal. Only problem was, that was one of FIVE FGs they'd get on this day. Have to give Phil Dawson credit, he had balls the size of small dogs today. He was personally responsible for 16 of the Niners 22 points. That's a good day for a kicker.

10. After the first quarter, KC begins to lose the balance of time of possession, and lost it badly for the rest of the game. The game ended up with SF having the ball about 36 minutes, to KC's 24 minutes. They kept saying what a hot day it was in Santa Clara. So what? 90 degrees is nothing to our guys who trained in St. Joseph in August. 90 is a reasonably cool day up there. I thought the defense held up decently for playing in those kind of conditions in October. We also had to overcome shitty ball spots and some great blocking by the officiating crew, as well as their look the other way non-calls. SF had two penalties for ten yards. That's the definition of home cooking. The league office should be ashamed.

9. Defense: Houston took the whole first half off. Of course, he was being held repeatedly throughout the game and it wasn't flagged one single time. He did step it up in the second half, getting Kap once, and flushing him out a couple of other times. But he ended with only one sack and four tackles. Hali was equally absent for a big part of the game. He had one tackle: a good one to stop Gore on a third and short...but only had one stinking tackle and zero sacks. That's unacceptable for an All-Pro. Poe had a half sack, but got run over on several fullback lead plays. Both Gore and Hyde ran right through our middle, Gore had 107 ground yards, most of them between the tackles. Today showed how much we miss Mays and DJ at ILB. Mauga led the team with ten tackles, most of them chasing down somebody from behind.

8. One of the big differences in this game was, SF receivers caught just about everything thrown at them, while KC receivers dropped several balls. Bowe had balls go off his hands. But Brandon Lloyd leapt to pull down a pass over Smith, out-fought him for the football. Jenkins did nothing. Bowe only had three catches, none of them consequential to the game. Kelce and Fasano had six catches between them and Kelce had a TD, but neither could make a play in the fourth quarter when it was sorely needed.

7. Charles also disappeared in the second half. Wasn't his fault, they wouldn't give him the ball. He only had 15 carries. That's criminal. Worse was the use -or non use- of Knile Davis. You have a scorching hot day. You've got a guy who can pound the football hard, or harder than Frank Gore, and the only thing you use the guy on is kickoff returns. Why? He had 30 carries against Miami in similar heat. DAT gets you decent returns, and scores on a pass reception, then you don't see him the rest of the flippin game. Why? Why indeed. It comes down to the Kool Aid Man in the Big Red Muu Muu. We'll get to him in a minute.

6. The special teams performance today was arguably worse than opening day vs. the Titans. Dave Toub was clowned. Completely clowned. The Midget didn't get kickoffs deep enough to prevent returns. Colquitt only averaged 35 yards per punt. Harbaugh fakes a punt on fourth and one and makes it easy, SF only punts twice in the entire game. And the coup de gras was twelve men on the field for a 50+ yard field goal (hence today's 12 Things), which sustained the Niners final drive, and shaved another two minutes off the clock, and sucked all our second half time outs away. That whole scenario was beyond ignorant... that was Oakland Raiders Ignorant. Toub needs to have his feet held to the fire the rest of the year. I don't care if he did coach Devon Hester, today was a piss poor specials coaching job by Toub.

5. One of the things I said in the season opening "Ten Things" after the Titans loss was, "No Guts, No Glory." The Kool Aid man had no guts today, ergo, no glory. Look, nobody expected this team to be world beaters this year. There's really no pressure on Reid as this win would have been seen as a road steal. First half, we have a third and a half yard -because of a bad spot by the refs...something that would happen over and over today...Instead of putting in Knile Davis and pounding it, they stall. And when they try to go for it on fourth and short, the line can't hold its water and false starts. We punt. Then in the second half, they drive inside the Niners 40 yard line, and instead of going for it on fourth, they punt, ball is a touch back (thanks to a nice block on Gaines by the Back Judge) and it's a Net punt of about 20 yards. Stupid. What do you have to lose there?
SF successfully fakes a punt at crunch time, and converts. Again, No Guts, No Glory.

4. Andy Reid is as hard headed about throwing the football as Marty was about running the football. It made no sense to put Alex Smith in a position to have to win this game at the end. We should have used the same formula as used against Miami. There's also a troubling proclivity for Andy to want to get everyone in the mix, instead of riding a hot hand. Hemmingway makes catches, then disappears. Kelce catches a TD, then disappears. Charles runs great in the first half, then disappears. DAT scored in the second half, then doesn't even see the field. I don't get it. Why not ride the guys who kept you in the game?

3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana.

2. We've got a bye, then get ready for Phyllis Rivers. Antonio Gates had a big day for the Bolts today, and I'm sure since our secondary is arguably worse than last year, Phyllis will have a field day against us. I hope we get Eric Berry back. He's going to be six weeks in before seeing his first meaningful action. That's a long time to wait for an All-Pro safety. Meanwhile our All-Pro cornerback will be lining up against Dwayne Bowe and asking him how he's spending his money. Could be a long day, although we played well in SD last year, only to be shafted by a Succop. Ask your favorite Steelers fan about that game. I'm sure they say the word "Succop" and then spit.

1. Andy Reid and Dave Toub lost this one for us, pure and simple. A five point loss, but still a loss. And we have a losing record. 8-8 is looking about right, and is about what I expected this season. Just hate to throw away chances like today. As of this writing, Royals lead LAA 7-2. Let's hope they hold on, and we can concentrate on Royals-Orioles for the next week. Go KC, Go Royals!

Game Pictures from the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le2521689.html

rabblerouser · 10-06-2014, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

On the comments about Kendick Lewis: Yes, I'm very glad he's gone, and Abdullah has been an upgrade. But Berry's been non-existent this season, Cooper has struggled as much or more than he did last year, and Smith gave up a critical third down catch to Lloyd because he didn't fight for the football. And it's too early to tell really, we still have to face Phyllis twice, and Wilson, and The Giant Forehead again.... so, lots of QB tests yet to come. I hope when Berry comes back they play better, and do a better job stopping the run. Mays coming back will help the middle too. We need a thumper on running downs.

Isn't it awesome, how well Flowers is playing for SD??

Even more awesome is how THE CHIEFS ARE STILL PAYING HIM!!!

(PS - when Berry wasn't hurt, he was up on the line to try and. Stop the run in DJs absence, so I guess he gets a pass.)

But yeah the secondary is a dumpster fire. It's just that no one knows it, since you can get there with a RB.

tecumseh · 10-06-2014, 09:03 AM

Thanks, George. Yep, that game was immensely frustrating to watch. Reid made his decisions based on the " Wheel of Plays". Very little made sense. Maybe this team just doesn't travel well.

**MahiMike** · 10-06-2014, 09:03 AM

Nice but I take exception to #3.

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3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana."

Alex does have this ability. He just has to figure out which guys he can trust. Bowe proved in the playoffs that he can only make plays when it doesn't count. Same deal for Fasano. Alex basically has Jamaal and Kelce now to choose from in those situations.

I agree coaching lost this game. The 3rd and 1 calls and special teams were game changers. When the opponent rolls out some 50 year old guy to kick 50 yarders and we are afraid to roll out our 5 foot kicker to try the same, you are playing scared. Is Prater still available? They need to grab an ex-kicker somewhere during the bye.

Oh and the Chargers will win the West.

**gblowfish** · 10-06-2014, 09:08 AM

Doggity report is here:

http://doggitychiefs.blogspot.com/20...at-niners.html

**MahiMike** · 10-06-2014, 09:08 AM

How great would it have been yesterday to have had Kelvin Benjamin on this team for the 4th quarter? Odell Beckham played his 1st game yesterday and already made an impact.

Instead we have Dee Ford...sitting on the bench! Why?

Rasputin · 10-06-2014, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm curious how a 12th player gets onto the field on a field goal attempt. You're all lining up out there, and all of a sudden one player thinks, "What's that kicker doing out there on third down? Wait! I'm not a member of the field goal team."

I guess realistically maybe a player was a little shaken up and his backup came in on the field goal team, and then the first player came in as well? That's the only scenario I could possibly see happening.

I think we could have won that game if it wasn't for that penalty. That was a huge dumbass mistake inexcusable.

**gblowfish** · 10-06-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

How great would it have been yesterday to have had Kelvin Benjamin on this team for the 4th quarter? Odell Beckham played his 1st game yesterday and already made an impact.

Instead we have Dee Ford...sitting on the bench! Why?

He looked French yesterday....turning tail and running at the first sign of danger. Not sure what his problem was, but he better un-**** himself in a hurry.

**MahiMike** · 10-06-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

Doggity report is here:

http://doggitychiefs.blogspot.com/20...at-niners.html

Cool. I was reading myself there.

Sandy Vagina · 10-06-2014, 09:15 AM

That was the most ridiculous looking defensive play I have seen in a long time... maybe ever. WTF was he thinking? did he suddenly think it was a pass play and he was floundering to find someone to cover?

Three7s · 10-06-2014, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

On the comments about Kendick Lewis: Yes, I'm very glad he's gone, and Abdullah has been an upgrade. But Berry's been non-existent this season, Cooper has struggled as much or more than he did last year, and Smith gave up a critical third down catch to Lloyd because he didn't fight for the football. And it's too early to tell really, we still have to face Phyllis twice, and Wilson, and The Giant Forehead again.... so, lots of QB tests yet to come. I hope when Berry comes back they play better, and do a better job stopping the run. Mays coming back will help the middle too. We need a thumper on running downs.

Sean Smith did a poor job high-pointing the football and I don't believe he located the football immediately either. Why? Because he was too busy trying to keep up with the receiver to find the football.

jLoy88 · 10-06-2014, 09:33 AM

Turning point:

Fourth and 2 (maybe 1?) from the 36 yard line. A field goal would be approximately 53 yards, which the Niners were booting through with ease. Kool-Aid decides to pull the offense off the field, punting unit comes out and boots one through the end zone for an amazing 16 yards of field differential. The Niners do a run play and a slant pass and are immediately past the 36 yard line within two plays.

WHO PUNTS ON THE 36 YARD LINE?????!

rabblerouser · 10-06-2014, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jLoy88

Turning point:

Fourth and 2 (maybe 1?) from the 36 yard line. A field goal would be approximately 53 yards, which the Niners were booting through with ease. Kool-Aid decides to pull the offense off the field, punting unit comes out and boots one through the end zone for an amazing 16 yards of field differential. The Niners do a run play and a slant pass and are immediately past the 36 yard line within two plays.

WHO PUNTS ON THE 36 YARD LINE?????!

Someone who is throwing a game away on purpose??

rabblerouser · 10-06-2014, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I think we could have won that game if it wasn't for that penalty. That was a huge dumbass mistake inexcusable.

If it all came down to that, then the Chiefs didn't DESERVE to win.

It ended the moment Reid passed the ball on 2nd and 1, 3rd and 1, and had called a pass on 4th and 1, but the O-line had a false start, so we ended up punting.

You have the BEST RB TANDEM IN THE LEAGUE, with a 2nd and 1...and. you. PUNT.

That is the moment the game ended.

And that was before halftime.

Big Poppa Payne · 10-06-2014, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Instead we have Dee Ford...sitting on the bench! Why?

He didn't sit on the bench the whole game, in fact he was out there a couple times helping Frank Gore get extra yards.

BeeHo · 10-06-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Poppa Payne

He didn't sit on the bench the whole game, in fact he was out there a couple times helping Frank Gore get extra yards.

Dee is such a nice guy

10-05-2014, 07:39 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17586178 VARSITY	Twelve Things About Today's Game Twelve Things About Today's Game 12. This week you get an abbreviated version of "Ten Things" because tonight I have a baseball game to win. However, I've added a bonus two things so I can rail twice as long on our failure on Special Teams, and failure of Head Coaching. There was plenty of failure to go around today, but curiously, The Chiefs won the first quarter and the third quarter and only lost the game by five. They had a shot up until the final two minutes. I don't think anybody thought after pre-season that going in to SF would be a road win. Today it was winnable, the Chiefs were "Yosted" by Andy Reid. 11. Offensively, KC started out great. Nice mix of run and pass, clicked on third down conversions, saw Bowe, Charles and Fasano all do well with Kelce capping it off. Smith played ball control, Chiefs chewed up a good portion of the quarter, scored seven, and the D held the Niners to a 50+ field goal. Only problem was, that was one of FIVE FGs they'd get on this day. Have to give Phil Dawson credit, he had balls the size of small dogs today. He was personally responsible for 16 of the Niners 22 points. That's a good day for a kicker. 10. After the first quarter, KC begins to lose the balance of time of possession, and lost it badly for the rest of the game. The game ended up with SF having the ball about 36 minutes, to KC's 24 minutes. They kept saying what a hot day it was in Santa Clara. So what? 90 degrees is nothing to our guys who trained in St. Joseph in August. 90 is a reasonably cool day up there. I thought the defense held up decently for playing in those kind of conditions in October. We also had to overcome shitty ball spots and some great blocking by the officiating crew, as well as their look the other way non-calls. SF had two penalties for ten yards. That's the definition of home cooking. The league office should be ashamed. 9. Defense: Houston took the whole first half off. Of course, he was being held repeatedly throughout the game and it wasn't flagged one single time. He did step it up in the second half, getting Kap once, and flushing him out a couple of other times. But he ended with only one sack and four tackles. Hali was equally absent for a big part of the game. He had one tackle: a good one to stop Gore on a third and short...but only had one stinking tackle and zero sacks. That's unacceptable for an All-Pro. Poe had a half sack, but got run over on several fullback lead plays. Both Gore and Hyde ran right through our middle, Gore had 107 ground yards, most of them between the tackles. Today showed how much we miss Mays and DJ at ILB. Mauga led the team with ten tackles, most of them chasing down somebody from behind. 8. One of the big differences in this game was, SF receivers caught just about everything thrown at them, while KC receivers dropped several balls. Bowe had balls go off his hands. But Brandon Lloyd leapt to pull down a pass over Smith, out-fought him for the football. Jenkins did nothing. Bowe only had three catches, none of them consequential to the game. Kelce and Fasano had six catches between them and Kelce had a TD, but neither could make a play in the fourth quarter when it was sorely needed. 7. Charles also disappeared in the second half. Wasn't his fault, they wouldn't give him the ball. He only had 15 carries. That's criminal. Worse was the use -or non use- of Knile Davis. You have a scorching hot day. You've got a guy who can pound the football hard, or harder than Frank Gore, and the only thing you use the guy on is kickoff returns. Why? He had 30 carries against Miami in similar heat. DAT gets you decent returns, and scores on a pass reception, then you don't see him the rest of the flippin game. Why? Why indeed. It comes down to the Kool Aid Man in the Big Red Muu Muu. We'll get to him in a minute. 6. The special teams performance today was arguably worse than opening day vs. the Titans. Dave Toub was clowned. Completely clowned. The Midget didn't get kickoffs deep enough to prevent returns. Colquitt only averaged 35 yards per punt. Harbaugh fakes a punt on fourth and one and makes it easy, SF only punts twice in the entire game. And the coup de gras was twelve men on the field for a 50+ yard field goal (hence today's 12 Things), which sustained the Niners final drive, and shaved another two minutes off the clock, and sucked all our second half time outs away. That whole scenario was beyond ignorant... that was Oakland Raiders Ignorant. Toub needs to have his feet held to the fire the rest of the year. I don't care if he did coach Devon Hester, today was a piss poor specials coaching job by Toub. 5. One of the things I said in the season opening "Ten Things" after the Titans loss was, "No Guts, No Glory." The Kool Aid man had no guts today, ergo, no glory. Look, nobody expected this team to be world beaters this year. There's really no pressure on Reid as this win would have been seen as a road steal. First half, we have a third and a half yard -because of a bad spot by the refs...something that would happen over and over today...Instead of putting in Knile Davis and pounding it, they stall. And when they try to go for it on fourth and short, the line can't hold its water and false starts. We punt. Then in the second half, they drive inside the Niners 40 yard line, and instead of going for it on fourth, they punt, ball is a touch back (thanks to a nice block on Gaines by the Back Judge) and it's a Net punt of about 20 yards. Stupid. What do you have to lose there? SF successfully fakes a punt at crunch time, and converts. Again, No Guts, No Glory. 4. Andy Reid is as hard headed about throwing the football as Marty was about running the football. It made no sense to put Alex Smith in a position to have to win this game at the end. We should have used the same formula as used against Miami. There's also a troubling proclivity for Andy to want to get everyone in the mix, instead of riding a hot hand. Hemmingway makes catches, then disappears. Kelce catches a TD, then disappears. Charles runs great in the first half, then disappears. DAT scored in the second half, then doesn't even see the field. I don't get it. Why not ride the guys who kept you in the game? 3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana. 2. We've got a bye, then get ready for Phyllis Rivers. Antonio Gates had a big day for the Bolts today, and I'm sure since our secondary is arguably worse than last year, Phyllis will have a field day against us. I hope we get Eric Berry back. He's going to be six weeks in before seeing his first meaningful action. That's a long time to wait for an All-Pro safety. Meanwhile our All-Pro cornerback will be lining up against Dwayne Bowe and asking him how he's spending his money. Could be a long day, although we played well in SD last year, only to be shafted by a Succop. Ask your favorite Steelers fan about that game. I'm sure they say the word "Succop" and then spit. 1. Andy Reid and Dave Toub lost this one for us, pure and simple. A five point loss, but still a loss. And we have a losing record. 8-8 is looking about right, and is about what I expected this season. Just hate to throw away chances like today. As of this writing, Royals lead LAA 7-2. Let's hope they hold on, and we can concentrate on Royals-Orioles for the next week. Go KC, Go Royals! Game Pictures from the KC Star: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...le2521689.html Last edited by gblowfish; 10-08-2014 at 08:24 AM..
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10-06-2014, 09:03 AM	#47
tecumseh Veteran Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Sweet Spot Casino cash: $9990615	Thanks, George. Yep, that game was immensely frustrating to watch. Reid made his decisions based on the " Wheel of Plays". Very little made sense. Maybe this team just doesn't travel well.
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10-06-2014, 09:03 AM	#48
MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Nice but I take exception to #3. " 3. You knew in the last two minutes there was no way in HELL Alex was going to win that game. Reid had to burn all his time outs after the 12-man fiasco. Smith is not a gunslinger, and instead of Joe Montana, he went all Elvis Grbac. The pick was an overthrow. Fasano can't leap like Kelce, they were trying to hook up with the wrong tight end. Kelce needs to be the go to guy for the rest of the year, and Fasano as the second banana. And where are your big money contract guys at crunch time? Smith wilts. Bowe isn't even targeted. We're paying those guys like the Niners pay Kap and Bouldin. And we get Bupkus. Not surprised, we haven't had a guy who can put the game on his back and win it at the end since Montana." Alex does have this ability. He just has to figure out which guys he can trust. Bowe proved in the playoffs that he can only make plays when it doesn't count. Same deal for Fasano. Alex basically has Jamaal and Kelce now to choose from in those situations. I agree coaching lost this game. The 3rd and 1 calls and special teams were game changers. When the opponent rolls out some 50 year old guy to kick 50 yarders and we are afraid to roll out our 5 foot kicker to try the same, you are playing scared. Is Prater still available? They need to grab an ex-kicker somewhere during the bye. Oh and the Chargers will win the West. __________________ 99.9%
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jLoy88 Starter Join Date: Dec 2013 Casino cash: $9977641	Turning point: Fourth and 2 (maybe 1?) from the 36 yard line. A field goal would be approximately 53 yards, which the Niners were booting through with ease. Kool-Aid decides to pull the offense off the field, punting unit comes out and boots one through the end zone for an amazing 16 yards of field differential. The Niners do a run play and a slant pass and are immediately past the 36 yard line within two plays. WHO PUNTS ON THE 36 YARD LINE?????!
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