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Old 11-20-2013, 11:47 AM  
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Famous Jameis...Rapist?
Don't know if you're following the Jameis Winston rape coverup - but seems like a pretty dirty deal happening down in Tampa.

New statement from the victim's family...
http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2013/PDFs/winston.pdf
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:39 AM   #46
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:21 AM   #47
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This is a bad deal all the way around. It is so easy to bang some guy and then call rape. So much so that it has led to a boy that cried wolf environment.

Either way, the way the facts are lining up it doesn't look good for Winston.

Is his roommate on the football team?
While there are some women who have done that, less than 3% of the reported rapes are that way.

Rape is also the least reported crime.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #48
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While there are some women who have done that, less than 3% of the reported rapes are that way.

Rape is also the least reported crime.
I understand, but it is sad that we can't just believe a woman when she says she was raped. Other women have to ruin it by being reeruned.
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #49
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They have his DNA in her.

Where did you read that? I read it was on her clothing. Are you making shit up again?
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:34 AM   #50
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Okay I don't know much about the case. But why was this girl in a football players room at 1 or 2 in the morning?
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:38 AM   #51
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Seems like the ramp up to blame a victim is already starting.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:05 AM   #52
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Seems like the ramp up to blame a victim is already starting.
I am just wondering because something doesn't make since here. The victim claimed she didn't know her attacker and gave a description. In the families statement they said the toxicology proves the victim wasn't intoxicated. Why was she in an apartment at 2 in the morning where she supposedly didnt know anybody. Not trying to make a statement on what happened just looking for more info.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:15 AM   #53
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I am just wondering because something doesn't make since here. The victim claimed she didn't know her attacker and gave a description. In the families statement they said the toxicology proves the victim wasn't intoxicated. Why was she in an apartment at 2 in the morning where she supposedly didnt know anybody. Not trying to make a statement on what happened just looking for more info.

all great questions. it'll play out. i'm more appalled by the police response, honestly, they could have sorted this all out a long time ago it seems. another great look for fla.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:24 AM   #54
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Where did you read that? I read it was on her clothing. Are you making shit up again?
How did his seminole fluid end up in her underwear.... mystery!!!! Sorry the seminole fluid joke from MM before was just too good to pass up a second time.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:39 AM   #55
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Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.
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Old 11-21-2013, 11:41 AM   #56
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Why would she have done a rape kit at the time, if it was consensual?

Why would the police/whoever have needed to suppress her accusations if she wasn't saying this had been rape all along?

Why'd he lie about it all the way until the DNA match? Not usually the conduct of an innocent person.
Great questions.
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How did his seminole fluid end up in her underwear.... mystery!!!! Sorry the seminole fluid joke from MM before was just too good to pass up a second time.
That doesn't answer the question of finding it "in her" as he charged, and where it was actually found. And that does matter since penetration is rape but foreplay would not be.
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
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I guess. They did a rape kit. There was probably penetration if they did a rape kit.
Administering a rape kit doesn't necessarily prove a rape occurred.

They're performed if there is an allegation of rape.
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