Chiefs Who were the clowns that claimed RGIII isn't that good? - Page 4

Pitt Gorilla · 10-14-2012, 10:20 PM

Seriously, I know there were a handful or so geniuses on here that didn't care for Robert's game.

I might trade our entire draft for the guy.

tredadda · 10-15-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Loved the guy. Would have traded what Washington traded in a heartbeat. Don't think I would have traded what it would have taken to outbid Washington.

I would have. Our biggest weakness is the one we can't fill in FA, which is QB. Washington gave up a ton but got an elite QB. We kept ours and got the non factor known as Dontari Poe ad of course backup offensive linemen. With Pioli's history in the first round would you really trust him with the picks he "saved" not going after RGIII?

Denver Mike · 10-15-2012, 08:25 AM

Wilson is a monster.. period..

If I were KC. I would trade Matt Casshole and a 4th to the Seahawks for Matt Flynn

tredadda · 10-15-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Out of curiosity where did you stand last year on him? I was kind of indifferent and would have happily taken him but really wanted Luck. I still think Luck will be the better QB when all is said and done, but would love to have RG III. Let's be realistic though, there was no chance Pioli was taking either of them.

I think this could end up like the QB class of 83 in the sense that Luck might end up being the best QB of this class (Elway or Marino), but RGIII will still be a phenomenal talent (Kelly, Marino, or Elway whomever is viewed as the second best from that class.)

tredadda · 10-15-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike

Wilson is a monster.. period..

If I were KC. I would trade Matt Casshole and a 4th to the Seahawks for Matt Flynn

Uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhh no.

Denver Mike · 10-15-2012, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I think this could end up like the QB class of 83 in the sense that Luck might end up being the best QB of this class (Elway or Marino), but RGIII will still be a phenomenal talent (Kelly, Marino, or Elway whomever is viewed as the second best from that class.)

I'd be willing to throw Wilson in with that group..

Sorry but Tannehill is garbage. We'll all see very soon if not already.

Luck, Griffin and Wilson will all 3 be elite starting caliber in the next 2-3 years. Instant contenders.

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tredadda · 10-15-2012, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike

I'd be willing to throw Wilson in with that group..

Sorry but Tannehill is garbage. We'll all see very soon if not already.

Luck, Griffin and Wilson will all 3 be elite starting caliber in the next 2-3 years. Instant contenders.

I could see that honestly. The only true knock on Wilson coming out was his size. Many thought he would be a 1st rounder if not a Top 5 pick had he been like 6' 3".

Denver Mike · 10-15-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

I could see that honestly. The only true knock on Wilson coming out was his size. Many thought he would be a 1st rounder if not a Top 5 pick had he been like 6' 3".

Yeah to be honest I'd take any of the 3 over Cam Newton..

Brees was a lil guy too.

Chiefnj2 · 10-15-2012, 08:40 AM

What I take from this years QB class is:
1) Don't get bent out of shape with the negatives in scouting reports.
2) Even if you "reach" for, or draft a guy with a lot of perceived flaws, you will still have a QB that is as good as, if not better than, Cassel/Quinn/Journeyman avg player. You aren't losing anything by taking a chance.
3) Build the system around the QB. Seattle, Washington, Indy, Cleveland (Minnesota for Ponder's second year) are all doing things differently.
4) Following up on (3) - you need a HC and OC who are adaptable. None of this "things should be modeled after New England" or Pitt or anywhere else.

TEX · 10-15-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Seriously, I know there were a handful or so geniuses on here that didn't care for Robert's game.

I might trade our entire draft for the guy.

They were the same ones who said not to panic at how bad the Chiefs looked in preseason, because it was "just presaeason"...

boogblaster · 10-15-2012, 08:48 AM

ima not bought in all the way yet .. lets see after acouple seasons ...

Molitoth · 10-15-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike

Wilson is a monster.. period..

If I were KC. I would trade Matt Casshole and a 4th to the Seahawks for Matt Flynn

Like the Hawks are that fucking stupid....

Denver Mike · 10-15-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Like the Hawks are that fucking stupid....

Seriously???

They were stupid enough to pay the man a truckload of money, draft a rookie and start him instead...

Don't give Seattle that much credit.

qabbaan · 10-15-2012, 09:25 AM

Cam Newton and Josh Freeman made big splashes in the league and aren't looking so good today. Even the class of the athlete/QBs, Vick, has still never won anything or turned into a great QB.

I'm not saying Griffin is not that good, but he is far from a proven commodity. We will see how he fares over the long term. Having a few productive games before teams develop a scheme for you doesn't prove a lot.

Chiefnj2 · 10-15-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver Mike

Seriously???

They were stupid enough to pay the man a truckload of money, draft a rookie and start him instead...

Don't give Seattle that much credit.

Since when is it stupid to play the better guy and have a backup plan ?

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qabbaan Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	Cam Newton and Josh Freeman made big splashes in the league and aren't looking so good today. Even the class of the athlete/QBs, Vick, has still never won anything or turned into a great QB. I'm not saying Griffin is not that good, but he is far from a proven commodity. We will see how he fares over the long term. Having a few productive games before teams develop a scheme for you doesn't prove a lot.
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