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Old 04-13-2013, 10:05 AM  
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-- Gaz shares his opinion on Smith + recent Chiefs activity.
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Hi SR-

Good to hear from you. We are fine & I hope you are well, too.

Heh. Like almost everything on the Planet, Geno is such a polarizing subject. Amazing to me how emotionally invested folks are in opposing opinions about a football player. I've seen political & religious conversations with less heat.

I think Smith is probably the QB prospect that is most ready for the NFL right now. But he is also the best QB in a very , VERY lean QB draft year. Whatever college QB rises to the top of the "must draft" lists always becomes larger than life. His strengths & flaws are magnified & obsessively examined. And then they are blown completely out of proportion. I think Geno Smith is the best of a lesser lot & is being hyped way out of proportion to his ability.

Had we not traded for Alex Smith, I would not have been horrified by Geno at #1. We needed a QB & it has been so long since we drafted & developed our own homegrown. But I still thought that OL or DL was more critical. I know OL in the First Round is anathema to a lot of fans, but you gotta secure the line. I think we should go for a Offensive Tackle or someone who can bring a pass rush. I know that would be chum in the water at the Planet. Blood would flow & people would disrespect my Mother.

Personally [and I know the Planet consensus would be that I am an idiot for this opinion], I think the "franchise QB" is a myth. Folks talk about Manning or Elway or Flacco winning a game all by themselves & try to rank QBs by comparing their win/loss records. QBs don't win games. Teams win games. Offense, Defense, Coaching & Luck [no pun intended]. Look at Elway before Sharpe & Davis.

So, this was a very long-winded way of saying that without the Alex Smith trade, I would have preferred an Offensive Tackle or Defensive Lineman or MAYBE a Linebacker in the First & a QB in the 2nd. If I were King, Geno Smith would not have been on my draft list. With the trade, it looks more & more likely that I am going to get what I wanted. And we'll see how good my prognosticating skills are this season.

Have fun, man.

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Old 04-13-2013, 11:12 AM   #46
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Jesus you are a ****ing moron. He ANSWERED a ****ing message from SR, he didn't post here.
well that's true but he knew it was going to be posted IMO.


Milkman was probably petty spot on in his analysis
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:13 AM   #47
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What's your deal on the gaz issue? He didn't ask SR to post it he answered a question to SR and SR posted it. And my friends and I go back and forth like you and your friends. But not everyone is like that.
I started out joking. People took offense because someone jabbed gaz. A guy who left before I got here but obviously was a little thin skinned.

Others took offense and now I don't like the guy. It happens...
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:13 AM   #48
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:15 AM   #49
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Seems like a pussy way to tell everyone his opinions and read what they think about it without having to respond to them.


Anyone with a little sense could see it.

Hell someone said "hi gaz I know you are reading this".
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #50
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Seems like a pussy way to tell everyone his opinions and read what they think about it without having to respond to them.


Anyone with a little sense could see it.

Hell someone said "hi gaz I know you are reading this".
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Because he probably is reading it. He's a lurker now
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:23 AM   #51
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Personally [and I know the Planet consensus would be that I am an idiot for this opinion], I think the "franchise QB" is a myth. Folks talk about Manning or Elway or Flacco winning a game all by themselves & try to rank QBs by comparing their win/loss records. QBs don't win games. Teams win games. Offense, Defense, Coaching & Luck [no pun intended]. Look at Elway before Sharpe & Davis.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:23 AM   #52
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Because he probably is reading it. He's a lurker now
Yeah ok.
IMO he did exactly what I said.

again we can agree to disagree, it's a nice day and I've got a thousand things I could be doing that I actually care about.

gaz isn't one of the thousand.

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Old 04-13-2013, 11:27 AM   #53
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Gaz told us he was going out for cigarettes and then he never came back. I have abandonment issues now that keep me from forming positive relationships with new posters in my life.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:27 AM   #54
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So you and milk support personal attacks in lieu of a more adult discussion, shock value over valuable debates, or even allowing a "agree to disagree" end to a discussion? And anyone who feels different is a virgina?

I don't know guys. I'm not in grade school anymore.
You've been here long enough to know this place has an edge to it. That's what made it different from other boards...and more popular. There are plenty of other Chiefs message boards for morons who don't like to be called morons to hang out at.

Now with that said, some people are over the top with it, but I'd rather see it lean to that extreme than it being a big damn PC circlejerk.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:32 AM   #55
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Jesus you are a ****ing moron. He ANSWERED a ****ing message from SR, he didn't post here.
One last post.

It's ironic you calling me a moron when I never said he posted here.

I said he sent his opinion thorough someone else. Which is exactly what happened.

The only argument is if he knew or was ok with red posting it.

It's an assumption, of course, but I don't think he would have been pissed at red.


And who could be mad a red anyways
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:35 AM   #56
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You've been here long enough to know this place has an edge to it. That's what made it different from other boards...and more popular. There are plenty of other Chiefs message boards for morons who don't like to be called morons to hang out at.

Now with that said, some people are over the top with it, but I'd rather see it lean to that extreme than it being a big damn PC circlejerk.
We do tend to go overboard, and I am as guilty as anyone on that regard.

However, like you, I'd rather this than the other way.
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We do tend to go overboard, and I am as guilty as anyone on that regard.

However, like you, I'd rather this than the other way.
Best post in a long time. And for the record I agree. The edge is the draw. I was playing devil's advocate.
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Gaz told us he was going out for cigarettes and then he never came back. I have abandonment issues now that keep me from forming positive relationships with new posters in my life.
Abandonment issues? Ha! You wanna talk abandonment issues? I'm still waiting for my outcome on my last flight in my bomber.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:48 AM   #59
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Dang, I for one....miss Gaz. Posts like the OP are why.
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Most of the fans of this team have never seen this team with a franchise QB.

Joe Montana was as close to that as they've ever seen.

They watched this team win more games than all but 3 other team during the 90s with outstanding defense, a top 5 O-Line and solid, if unspectacular, ground game.

They believe that just a break here, a call there, are the difference between winning playoff games and playing in the SB.

They want to recreate what they saw as the winning formula that this team was built with during those years.
If this team is dead set against drafting a QB that will hopefully turn out to be elite, then that 90s formula would be 2nd best.

That said, DRAFT A ****ING QB.
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