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Old 08-11-2017, 10:17 PM  
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Mahomes should feel right at home after tonight.

The Chiefs looked like his old college team last year--

• No offensive line

• Play/momentum-killing penalties

• A tight end (Escobar) who couldn't catch a cold in an incubator

• No run game

• A defense that couldn't wrap up and tackle one-legged nuns playing for The Over-the-Sacred Hill Sisters of the Invalid.

The difference tonight versus his final season at Tech was that this evening, he showed discipline in doing what the coaches told him to do and not trying to freelance every play.

That TD pass he threw? Tech fans and alumni have seen that pass dozens of times. It's almost a Mahomes trademark--but it doesn't make the highlight reels because he makes it look too easy.

Stave just needs to go. He ain't it and never is going to be.

Conclusion: Mahomes got his first NFL game under his belt, stayed cool, made no major mistakes.

Mission accomplished.

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Old 08-12-2017, 08:04 AM   #46
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Watson can't make this throw. And that's why we took Mahomes over him.

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Old 08-12-2017, 08:10 AM   #47
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Watson can't make this throw. And that's why we took Mahomes over him.

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LOL- Watson made throws like that all the time at Clemson.. Do you even football?
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:21 AM   #48
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What i want to see next saturday is as follows:

Stave stays on the ****ing bench/holding a clipboard.

Mahomes plays with the number 2 team.

Bray cleans up whatever slop is left. That experiment is never going to come to fruition.

isaiah battle ****s himself on the sideline.

When mahomes is on the field, stop giving the rock to charcandrick west on 2nd and 3rd down. He is ****ing terrible. He killed a drive on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1.

Spiller jumps in front of west and plays more snaps.

Hunt gets more snaps.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:34 AM   #49
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[QUOTE=cmdrzman;13007474]Mahomes made a couple nice throws but he also had a couple bad ones to- That 1sr throw was actually not very good- in the area but it was under thrown, Robinson had his man beat by 5 feet- Mahomes gets that placed out in front and it's a TD- Instead of Robinson having to slow up to catch it and getting tackled- Smith had exact call on his 1st snap and made an NFL throw- put it in front of Hill allowing him to scoot for more yards

Mahomes sack could have been avoided too

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Old 08-12-2017, 08:35 AM   #50
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LOL- Watson made throws like that all the time at Clemson.. Do you even football?
LMFAO! No he did not. Do YOU even (watch) football?
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:38 AM   #51
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I wasn't impressed by Mahomes at all but I know he is young and that was his first game.

He'll get better and I think eventually will turn into a very good QB but as of right now this kid is very raw. He needs time. As a Chiefs fan I am obviously rooting for him.

What I did like - his ability to extend plays. Seems like he has pretty good pocket awareness which is great to see. You can't teach that.


Not impressed with only missing 2 passes and posted a 126 QBR with an improvised TD? In his first game? Huge bomb on his first NFL pass?

You need to take your Alex Super Hero glasses off to watch the next game.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:39 AM   #52
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Not impressed with only missing 2 passes and posted a 126 QBR with an improvised TD? In his first game? Huge bomb on his first NFL pass?

You need to take your Alex Super Hero glasses off to watch the next game.
I was watching with friends who are not Chief fans and they said the same thing.

That huge bomb was a bad pass. It was underthrown. It should have been an easy TD.

I think Mahomes is going to be great eventually. I just don't think he is there yet. Sure his stats were good but most of his throws were quick one-read passes pretty much any QB can make.

I'm excited to see what he does next game.
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:40 AM   #53
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Mahomes made a couple nice throws but he also had a couple bad ones to- That 1sr throw was actually not very good- in the area but it was under thrown, Robinson had his man beat by 5 feet- Mahomes gets that placed out in front and it's a TD- Instead of Robinson having to slow up to catch it and getting tackled- Smith had exact call on his 1st snap and made an NFL throw- put it in front of Hill allowing him to scoot for more yards

Mahomes sack could have been avoided too

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He is an idiot, but he's got a point on the throw to Robinson - the ball was under thrown.

Still, you're correct that he gets an "F" and he is a dipshit that should try harder next time....
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only NOW.. and only for him.. is the QBR presented as some form of evidence of excellent play.

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only NOW.. and only for him.. is the QBR presented as some form of evidence of excellent play.

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I was watching with friends who are not Chief fans and they said the same thing.

That huge bomb was a bad pass. It was underthrown. It should have been an easy TD.

I think Mahomes is going to be great eventually. I just don't think he is there yet. Sure his stats were good but most of his throws were quick one-read passes pretty much any QB can make.

I'm excited to see what he does next game.
So his First NFL pass, which was a big completion, was a bit underthrown- how disappointing.

It is a good thing Alex never underthrows wide open receivers huh?

As one of the most vocal Alex supporters on here, it is hard to believe you can be unbiased no matter what PM2 does. Hopefully, he continues to improve and I think he will- but considering that was his FIRST game it is silly people are being so critical of him. It is almost like they were hoping he would fail-so they could say- Because Chiefs.
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only NOW.. and only for him.. is the QBR presented as some form of evidence of excellent play.

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Kizer looked the best of the group.

Then I'd say Mahomes had the second best day. JDKinsman is absolutely right. That TD pass is a play that other QBs in the NFL don't throw because they CAN'T. Throwing across your body even slightly is shunned in this league, and Mahomes makes it look effortless. He's going to use that a lot, and I don't think Reid and his staff are going to "coach" that out of him. Nor should they. THAT'S why you drafted this kid.

Trubisky was pretty good, though he looked a lot more erratic and less confident than Mahomes. He made big plays and didn't screw up, though. Not much more you can expect from a rookie.

Watson is the worst of the bunch. You were criticizing Mahomes earlier for his mechanics? What do you think Watson just put up yesterday? O

Two plays stand out in my mind and are evidently clear why Mahomes is a real professional QB and why Watson should take his talents to Canada if he wants a long term impact with a team. Those simple dig routes that Mahomes throws through tight windows--- one to Gehrig, and one to Robinson (again, called back on a penalty). Those were absolute dart throws. Tons of velocity with good location for the receiver to pick up on them without having to do a body contortion to have a shot at it. A throw Brett Favre has had success with hundreds of times with Donald Driver alone.

Those are the throws that make Mahomes so valuable. There are some very good starting QBs in the league right now who CAN'T make those simple 15-yard throws with the requisite velocity for a completion.

Watson is one of those guys who can't make those throws. You also compound that with his INACCURACY when even attempting a throw near the height of his velocity or throwing distance, and he becomes a real mess. Good playmaker, confident in the pocket (or whatever he would call one) and has a great clock in his head, knowing when he has to evade pressure. But he's got a problem with his arm-- the same problem that Doug Flutie had.

Watson 15 play 75 yard drive was awesome. He cut Carolina's defense to pieces. He will earn the starting job. He looked the most ready and the best to me. He has all the intangibles. His arm strength and accuracy are good enough.
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Mahomes made a couple nice throws but he also had a couple bad ones to- That 1sr throw was actually not very good- in the area but it was under thrown, Robinson had his man beat by 5 feet- Mahomes gets that placed out in front and it's a TD- Instead of Robinson having to slow up to catch it and getting tackled- Smith had exact call on his 1st snap and made an NFL throw- put it in front of Hill allowing him to scoot for more yards

Mahomes sack could have been avoided too

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Grade of C

I didnt see Mahomes march down the field at any time last night- whats the longest yards he got in one possesion like 30 yards or some sh*t?
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So his First NFL pass, which was a big completion, was a bit underthrown- how disappointing.

It is a good thing Alex never underthrows wide open receivers huh?

As one of the most vocal Alex supporters on here, it is hard to believe you can be unbiased no matter what PM2 does. Hopefully, he continues to improve and I think he will- but considering that was his FIRST game it is silly people are being so critical of him. It is almost like they were hoping he would fail-so they could say- Because Chiefs.

I disagree that I am being harsh on him. I simply said I was not impressed but I think that he has a ton of potential. That doesn't mean I thought he sucked.

I am not hoping Mahomes fails. As a Chiefs fan I hope he turns out to be the next Brady but at the same time I'm not going get excited just because he is a 1st rd draft pick. I want to see something that impresses me before I get too excited and I have that right. I didn't see anything last night that got me that excited. That's just being honest.

To be fair that's to be expected it's his first preseason game and he barely played. He could have a bad first year and still turn out to be great so I'm not concerned at all. I'm going to be patient with him.

Just because he is a rookie doesn't mean he isn't allowed to get criticized.
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