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Old 09-26-2023, 01:00 PM  
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Onside kick discussion
I brought this up in the MNF thread so I assume it wasn't seen by many.

Teams are going to have to try something different the way onside kicks are done now the odds of recovery is basically zero.

I proposed the idea of the kicker just drilling it as hard as he possibly can right at one of the upmen, no way dude is catching it then you get a live ball deflection.

Any other ideas out there?
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Old 09-26-2023, 05:14 PM   #46
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20%? Thats much higher than I would have guessed.

Was a little surprising to me as well.


Same article said that ‘unexpected’ onsides kicks had a probability of success over 50%, but that might be due to the rarity of tries.
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Old 03-03-2024, 02:24 PM   #47
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Might as well just eliminate the onsides kick and go with another option.

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Old 03-03-2024, 02:28 PM   #48
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Old 03-03-2024, 02:51 PM   #49
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I guess if a team is going to fake a punt or FG they should have to tell the other team in advance as well.
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My proposed new rule is that you declare an onsides kick and kick off with five footballs. One is marked with an X and it's the real one. Whoever recovers it gets the ball at the spot of recovery.
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if the Bills proposed it, will it come back and bite them on the ass?
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Old 03-03-2024, 06:57 PM   #53
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I think it's clear, the NFL just doesn't like kick offs.

So given that, I would just get rid off kick offs. I know its traditional, but rules have been changed before and the NFL has been killing it anyway.
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Old 03-03-2024, 07:45 PM   #54
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They need to eliminate the damn thing entirely. It's not only not safe but it's like the old FG attempt. The play is useless bc it almost never works.

Replace it with one of the following:

1. 55 yard FG to get the ball at own 25 ~ opposing team picks which side of the field the kick occurs.
2. Down and 10 from their own 5 yard line. If you get at least 10 yards you get 1st and 10 with the chance to go 85 yards to score
The Chiefs would literally get the ball back every time the scored 55 yarder
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Old 03-03-2024, 08:04 PM   #55
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The Chiefs would literally get the ball back every time the scored 55 yarder
Andy won't even go for it on say, fourth and five before mid field, so no.

But that rule is problematic because of how some teams would be favored.

So good luck getting the other owners agreeing to it.
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They need to eliminate the damn thing entirely. It's not only not safe but it's like the old FG attempt. The play is useless bc it almost never works.

Replace it with one of the following:

1. 55 yard FG to get the ball at own 25 ~ opposing team picks which side of the field the kick occurs.
2. Down and 10 from their own 5 yard line. If you get at least 10 yards you get 1st and 10 with the chance to go 85 yards to score
So, KC NEVER gives the ball to the other team? Sounds good to me, honestly.
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If you really want to get rid of the onside kick, use an icosahedron. Kicking team gets 1 or 2 sides (depending on what the NFL decides) to keep the ball.
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The onside kicks that are normally converted happen when the team receiving doesn't suspect the onside will occur. When it's time for the onside in the final 2 minutes to keep the game alive then it's very rarely converted. This new rule will just make the game even more boring because you'll get no successful onside kicks in a whole season and zero chance of a holy shit play like NO did in the Super Bowl. They hate fun.
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If you really want to get rid of the onside kick, use an icosahedron. Kicking team gets 1 or 2 sides (depending on what the NFL decides) to keep the ball.

Can we make it really big, like 20 feet per side, and then each team can push it with 11 players?
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