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06-13-2018, 12:22 PM | #46 | |
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I was very high on him last year for that reason. He's natural at getting separation and finding space, but he was terribly ineffective when he got in the lineup and dropped far too many easy passes. Too many drops. Bad catch rate. Low YPC. Just totally unimpressive. Though, in his defense... Alex missed him more than a few times when he was WIDE open for potential big plays. They were not on the same page. |
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06-13-2018, 12:25 PM | #47 | |
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Conley is bigger, runs faster, and jumps higher. Those are facts that are objectively true. That in itself doesn't make him better, it just makes you wrong about Robinson being more athletic. If you said he was more instinctive and natural when separating or finding space against zone, I would have agreed. Instead you intimated he was just a better athlete. HE's not. Conley is one of the better athletes playing WR in the league. He's OBVIOUSLY not one of the best players at the position. One thing doesn't equate the other. Last edited by WhiteWhale; 06-13-2018 at 12:31 PM.. |
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Also, when was the last time Chris Conley made you say, "Wow." |
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I will say this about Robinson's drops.
Harris is a guy we know doesn't have good hands as we have always seen him drop balls. Robinson did have his share of drop balls last year but I am not sure if it was just a string of "bad plays" for him or if he really doesn't have good hands, especially that some of Mahomes' throws were really not perfect. I am pretty sure he didn't have problems catching the ball in college so I feel like we need to see more. |
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06-13-2018, 12:59 PM | #50 | |
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He had 21 catches on 39 attempts for 212 yards. Only 30% of his catches were first downs. He wasn't impressive AT ALL. Again, I thought highly of him last year. I thought he'd steal Conley's job out from under him. He didn't impress at all though. |
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06-13-2018, 01:02 PM | #51 | |
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Robinson doesn't either. What do you think is being discussed here? I'm not championing either guy. I'm just pointing out two simple facts. 1. Conley is more athletic 2. Conley was more effective when he started last year. Which people are resisting for whatever stupid reason. This is who we're talking about: https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2017/ https://www.pro-football-reference.c...lCh00/gamelog/ I'm not too concerned which guy gets us 30 yards a game. |
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No I didn't, I said he was more elusive and quicker over short distances. Which happens to be the exact sort of skills needed to play the slot.
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You're right. Their combine times back it up with the 3 cone and shuttle drills. He's got better COD skills. |
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I also disagree that Robinson dropped "easy" catches. HERE are highlights from that game and let's go through the catches. @22 seconds The first was catchable I agree @35 seconds the throw was too strong imo so I don't blame Robinson @5:25 he caught a tough catch down low @5:57 there's no way he could have caught that ball as it flew past him @6:22 again Robinson makes a good catch as he rose up high @6:34 Robinson beats his man and Pat overthrew the ball @6:52 he catches the ball @7:08 Pat throws the back shoulder too quickly and a little low, so again I don't think Robinson is fully to blame here @8:22 was the catch of the game and brilliant by both Pat and Robinson So imo the notion that he "dropped a bunch of easy catches" is total BS. He's human, so of course drops are gonna happen, but to suggest it's some sort of habit in his game would be wildly inaccurate. In fact, from the evidence I've seen he has a tendency to make outstanding catches actually. |
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Very clutch when you HAVE to have the catch. |
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I am still ****ing pissed at Houston for kicking 11billion onsides when they were clearly blown out.
**** them. The Watson injury should be just the beginning of the karma. |
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Also, he started 7 games. I don't give a shit how he played in meaningless season finale against a bunch of back ups. Geezus. He'll give us 30 yards a game. Conley will give us 30 yards a game. Who really gives a shit? |
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You can't even show me one drive where Conley done anything above average, so as far as I'm concerned that's case closed . |
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Congratulations. You won a 'debate' that you were invested in and i wasn't. I showed indisputable statistics which you NEVER ADDRESSED, and you cherry picked plays from a worthless game and then claimed victory because I wouldn't drop my life, scan the internet, and time stamp Chris ****ing Conley plays. Awesome. Robinson may one day be a slot WR who can get 400 yards in a single season! So can Conley. Nobody gives a shit. I don't care. You're a reerun. Either guy can get us the 30 yards per game we need. Nobody cares except you. I'm not much into arguing about he value of scrubs and JAGS. Take your victory lap. I don't care. Nice 'win'. Your lifetime superbowl. Your family is proud. So am I. Last edited by WhiteWhale; 06-14-2018 at 02:27 AM.. |
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