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View Poll Results: What's the offenses biggest weakness
Alex Smith 29 23.02%
The offensive line 67 53.17%
The wide receivers 13 10.32%
Play calling 11 8.73%
Something else 6 4.76%
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:05 AM  
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What's the biggest problem with the Chiefs offense?

I know there has been a lot of talk about this topic and I just want to see what the majority of the people here think the biggest issue is that causes the offense to underperform.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:56 PM   #46
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:58 PM   #47
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:59 PM   #48
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The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.
I agree with this.

But there is something that really annoys me when the announcers talk about the Chiefs putrid passing game every week. They always mention Smith being a game manager and not throwing downfield. They also mention that the WRs are not very good as a group over all. But the one factor that they always forget to mention is the pass blocking. And that, to me, is the biggest reason for the terrible ranking in passing. That a big reason that the Chiefs utilize the short passing and don't throw deep. They simply don't normally have the time to throw it deep.

Now I did notice that with McGlynn not being in there last week the pass blocking looked much improved. I watched the LG on quite a few plays and I thought Linkenbaugh actually did a decent job. My only question is how bad did Linkenbaugh have to be in practice to not be able to beat out a horrible pass blocker in McGlynn?
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:59 PM   #49
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Seriously?
5.4 yards per play on offense isn't good, but it's hardly terrible either. Puts us in the middle of the league. Don't let data get into the way of your opinion, though.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:00 PM   #50
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5.4 yards per play on offense isn't good, but it's hardly terrible either. Puts us in the middle of the league. Don't let data get into the way of your opinion, though.
It was more about how our offense sucks because our defense doesn't create turnovers.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:00 PM   #51
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Systematic problem that starts from the O-line and trickles down.

If the O-line can pass protect for a second or two longer, giving the WR's more time to get open, giving Smith more time to throw and alters his internal clock so he feels comfortable actually sitting in the pocket, allowing the coaches to call more plays designed to go down field.
This guy gets it.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:03 PM   #52
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Now I did notice that with McGlynn not being in there last week the pass blocking looked much improved. I watched the LG on quite a few plays and I thought Linkenbaugh actually did a decent job. My only question is how bad did Linkenbaugh have to be in practice to not be able to beat out a horrible pass blocker in McGlynn?
McGoo was Andy's guy from Philly. As long as the Chiefs were winning, I guess he wanted to stay with his guy. It took a three game losing streak to finally get him on the bench. That's part of why I put coaching as #2.

1. OL
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:03 PM   #53
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I think it's a combination of OL and Smith. I was thinking it was all OL until I attended the AZ and was able to see the entire secondary. There are people open when he scrambles but for some reason will not throw the damn ball.
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Reason why we're struggling for a playoff spot is the D is incredibly unlucky. We're last in the league in take-aways. We only have 4 INTs the whole year. 4! Had we caught a decent number of the balls DBs had in their hands, we'd have 2-3 more wins.
Is that the reason that our D is in the top 10 while our O is in the bottom 10?
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The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.
That's right, and that's why there was the change at LG.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:05 PM   #56
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Notice how the loss of Donnie Avery hurt this team this year compared to what he gave us last year.

This team needs to do the following in order.

1. Is there a QB in the draft that is worth taking? (doesn't look like it this year)

if not than follow these steps.

2. A. Find a good OL to bring in via FA and the draft
2. B. Find some WR's with speed like Avery that can catch the damn ball.

And yes Reid is an issue, but that sure as hell aint goin nowhere.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:06 PM   #57
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Is that the reason that our D is in the top 10 while our O is in the bottom 10?
Not my point. The D is better than the O; there's no doubt about that. My point is the D has been unlucky with respective to TOs. Shockingly unlucky.

Edit: in other words, this team is better than their record.
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His only other option is to run it even when it's not effective. Not sure if you've been paying attention lately, but the running lanes simply haven't been there. And they won't be there until the Chiefs develop a passing game.
Then how does Charles happen to have the all time YPC mark? Because the passing game has never really been there during his career.

Reid is just not patient enough with the running game to stick with it and give Charles or Davis the opportunity to break a big one.

To answer the OP's question, the number one reason the offense isn't average is the offensive line. The number one reason they aren't and will never be elite in today's NFL, is the QB position.
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Not my point. The D is better than the O; there's no doubt about that. My point is the D has been unlucky with respective to TOs. Shockingly unlucky.

Edit: in other words, this team is better than their record.
You are right:

Last year: +18 takeaway differential, ranked 1st

This year: -5 , ranked 23rd
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Then how does Charles happen to have the all time YPC mark? Because the passing game has never really been there during his career.

Reid is just not patient enough with the running game to stick with it and give Charles or Davis the opportunity to break a big one.

To answer the OP's question, the number one reason the offense isn't average is the offensive line. The number one reason they aren't and will never be elite in today's NFL, is the QB position.
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