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Old 03-17-2017, 04:17 PM   #1
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I don't think he has the patience to develop a rookie anymore.
Then why does he keep bringing in rookies?

Bray
Murray
Hogan

Joel Stave only has a year in the league, so he counts as a developmental guy.

....not far removed from drafting and "developing" Foles either.

I don't subscribe to the line of thinking that Reid/Dorsey are adverse to picking up a young QB. Guys like Bray, Murray and Hogan all have/had the tools you'd want in a developmental Qb....they just simply haven't developed.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #2
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Then why does he keep bringing in rookies?

Bray
Murray
Hogan

Joel Stave only has a year in the league, so he counts as a developmental guy.

....not far removed from drafting and "developing" Foles either.

I don't subscribe to the line of thinking that Reid/Dorsey are adverse to picking up a young QB. Guys like Bray, Murray and Hogan all have/had the

tools you'd want in a developmental Qb....they just simply haven't developed.
Bray - UDFA
Murray - 5th rd
Hogan - 5th rd

low-cost pickups and IMO we would have traded them for draft picks if they had shown anything. I don't believe that Reid planned on replacing Smith with any of them.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:29 PM   #3
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Bray - UDFA
Murray - 5th rd
Hogan - 5th rd

low-cost pickups and IMO we would have traded them for draft picks if they had shown anything. I don't believe that Reid planned on replacing Smith with any of them.
I blame Hunt more than anyone...

But I admit, some of the points you've made in this topic is making me sour a bit more on Reid.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:24 PM   #4
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That is my biggest fear and sadly I think its true. He was young when he drafted mcnabb I don't think he has the patience to develop a rookie anymore.
I agree 100%

He has been half-assing our development of a young QB from the start.

McNabb annoyed the shit out of Reid with all his improvisation and gun-slinging. Part of the reason why Reid was willing to trade him within the division.

Bray is the only guy left on the roster and that's only because he got hurt so often that the Chiefs didn't have to do much to keep him. Guys like Hogan and Murray got limited preseason snaps and were sent packing as soon as the Chiefs needed the roster spot.

We have signed a veteran backup to be our #2 every year that Reid has been here.

This is about Hunt and Reid.

Who knows, maybe Reid told Hunt that he would prefer going with a veteran QB during his job interview with Hunt. Maybe that's part of the reason why Hunt hired him.

No doubt in my mind that Dorsey would already have a talented, young guy on the roster IF Reid really wanted one.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:27 PM   #5
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No, 'we' aren't.....we need to draft a QB . No more retreads please..unless you want 40 more years of ringless seasons.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:29 PM   #6
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We of the CP brain trust have been looking at it just fine for over 10 years.

It's the assholes at One Arrowhead that are working with nerd glasses:

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I just keep thinking of Mahomes photo op with Clark. This is the most likely year drafting that legitimate QBOTF more than ever.
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I just keep thinking of Mahomes photo op with Clark. This is the most likely year drafting that legitimate QBOTF more than ever.
Really, the only think i've heard is that this year's draft is weak at the QB position.

Next year is supposed to be better
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Old 03-17-2017, 05:06 PM   #10
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Really, the only think i've heard is that this year's draft is weak at the QB position.

Next year is supposed to be better
LOL, Chiefs fans constant mantra " Next year will be a better QB crop"

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Old 03-17-2017, 05:21 PM   #11
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LOL, Chiefs fans constant mantra " Next year will be a better QB crop"

Still looking to catch that golden winged unicorn
Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
Drafting any QB is always a crapshoot. Wasting a 1st rd pick on a lottery ticket is not what good teams do unless it's the ONLY position of need.
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
Okay let's just say next year's QB is better we won't have the ammunition to get one because every other team with a high pick will be gunning for them. You'very got to look at the present, because you'll chasing something that will be unattainable because the perfect QB is a myth
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
How will having a weak QB class this year help us? We have lots of draft picks in a deep draft. If we don't draft a QB, we'll spend it on a position to grow out our depth in other surrounding positions of importance. We'll be a pretty good team yet again, Alex will continue to throw for >20 TDs and >3500 yards but play efficient and boring successful football. We'll win lots of regular season games and have a low draft pick. We'll be unable to maneuver around and grab the guy we want if EVERYBODY is trying to do the same ****ing thing.

Just look at 2012. A great QB class, right? Where did we draft? We could only have traded up for Ryan Tannehill. The guy who would "fall" to us was Brandon ****ing Weeden.

Yeah yeah yeah Russell Wilson herpa derp. EVERY TEAM had their shot to draft Russell Wilson and passed on him at least once. Even with Dorsey and Reid running the show, the odds are not very good that a Russell Wilson will fall to the 2nd or 3rd round, nor are they good odds that Dorsey and Reid will have the foresight to draft that particular player over another guy who might fail spectacularly in a similar draft position like Brodie Croyle.

If there is a QB who with a year or even two on the bench could amount to something, and Reid likes him, you ****ing GRAB HIM. **** the notion of the class he was drafted in. Grab that mother****er now.
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Lol, the constant mantra of the people who want the Chiefs to draft a QB no matter what.

draft Geno
draft Mark Sanchez
draft Jonny foosball

Doesn't matter whether the QB sucks or not, I just want to draft one!!


This year is considered a weak QB class, Watson and Trubisky being the only 1st round guys, weak ones at that.

Next year is supposed to have a chance at being special.

Ironically, having a really weak QB class this year might end up giving the Chiefs a better chance at grabbing one early. Whether that guy is worth getting is another matter.
"This year is weak"

WTF about the last 30?!?! It's bullshit like this that pisses everyone off. How many good QB's in he league were considered anything more than "developmental QB's?" That weren't hyped up? How many were looked as developmental "maybe" players?

There's a shit load of these guys that are good QB's and we've passed on them over and over again. Carr, Wilson, Dak. 3 in the last 5 years.

This "developmental QB sucks blah blah next year" bullshit needs to end.
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