Movies and TV The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread - Page 37

**mdchiefsfan** · 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.

**luv** · 07-29-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal

He bought futures contracts in Wayne's name using the fingerprints Selina Kyle stole. I saw the movie last week so I don't remember too well but my guess is he used Bruce's money to bet on securities that would tank (especially after the attack on the stock exchange)

And they knew which stocks would tank.

listopencil · 07-29-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Because Nolan concocted a bullshit scene in the stock market that wouldn't have resulted in a billionaire going broke in reality.

Wasn't there a mention in the movie that this would be straightened out but it would take time? During the board meeting the bad guy temporarily took control on a technicality, and because the board members mistrusted the playboy Bruce Wayne image as I recall. It was a bit complicated and there was other stuff going on but I thought that's what happened. Not that it was a long term goal to destroy the company but to paint Wayne as irresponsible to pave the way for a coup.

Hammock Parties · 07-29-2012, 09:34 PM

He lost all his money during an attack on the stock exchange. It would have been ID'd as fraud pretty quickly in RL

**Buehler445** · 07-29-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

I saw it for a second time this weekend as well, and I still liked it too. One thing I still don't get after 2 viewings - probably because I'm stupid - but how did Bruce Wayne all of a sudden lose every penny he had? I didn't understand that part of the movie, with him losing everything, losing his spot on the board, and trusting "Talia" with whatever he trusted her with. Could someone explain? If he lost everything and was no longer a part of the company, how did he have any right to give Talia whatever power he gave her? Like I said, I may be just reeruned for not getting it. It does seem kinda far fetched that all of a sudden a billionaire could be broke overnight like that, but I at least would like to know how it happened in the movie.

Basically he bought and/or sold contracts on the futures market. And then they went the other way, meaning his position lost money. He had to lose everything to make the margin call.

Think of it as you buying a contract of corn (5,000 bu) at $6. Then the price goes down to $5.00. You now owe $1,000 to the brokerage. That's what Bane did.

**Buehler445** · 07-29-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He lost all his money during an attack on the stock exchange. It would have been ID'd as fraud pretty quickly in RL

Give it a rest dude. There was all sorts of financial shit that wouldn't be allowed IRL. Suspend belief and let it go.

Mr. Plow · 07-29-2012, 09:49 PM

I can't imagine how some of you enjoy going to the movies.

**luv** · 07-29-2012, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I can't imagine how some of you enjoy going to the movies.

No shit. I don't go to the movies to see real life. I get enough of that every day.

**Buehler445** · 07-29-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I can't imagine how some of you enjoy going to the movies.

That's what I said. I think if I looked at it hard enough, I could find all this nitpicky shit in any movie. Plot points are one thing, "it would be figured out IRL" crap would kill any movie.

Mr. Plow · 07-29-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

That's what I said. I think if I looked at it hard enough, I could find all this nitpicky shit in any movie. Plot points are one thing, "it would be figured out IRL" crap would kill any movie.

Exactly.

**SAUTO** · 07-29-2012, 09:52 PM

It's a movie and not real life for a reason.

I hate it when people cry that a movie isn't realistic enough.
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JD10367 · 07-29-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Because Nolan concocted a bullshit scene in the stock market that wouldn't have resulted in a billionaire going broke in reality.

If you'd unwad your "I WANNA DRESS LIKE ROBIN AND GO DOWN BATMAN'S BATPOLE" panties, you'd remember that Wayne Enterprises was already almost broke. This was well-established in many scenes--the fact that he was a recluse, his conversation with Morgan Freeman about how he mothballed the nuclear project he'd been funneling money into, the fact that he'd lost touch with reality and wasn't paying attention to his company any more and didn't even know they weren't funding the Boys' Home, etc.,. While still wealthy, Wayne was nowhere near the bazillionaire he was before, and the stock market move pushed his dwindling fortune over the edge.

Direckshun · 07-29-2012, 09:59 PM

Can somebody describe the Bane/Talia plot to take over Wayne Enterprises?

The motivation, the strategy?

**Buehler445** · 07-29-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Can somebody describe the Bane/Talia plot to take over Wayne Enterprises?

The motivation, the strategy?

They wanted to get control of the fusion reactor.

Bruce Wayne lost all of his money and had to dump his shares of Wayne Enterprises. In order to not let the dude that Bane offed get the company, they elected Talia the CEO.

Silock · 07-29-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

That's what I said. I think if I looked at it hard enough, I could find all this nitpicky shit in any movie. Plot points are one thing, "it would be figured out IRL" crap would kill any movie.

I see that, but it just kinda sucks that they couldn't find something that was a *tad* more realistic and logical. Even if they said at the end of the movie that he got all his money back because they figured out it was fraud, I would have been satisfied.

I still love the movie. My fave of the 3, by far.

**Buehler445** · 07-29-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Silock

I see that, but it just kinda sucks that they couldn't find something that was a *tad* more realistic and logical. Even if they said at the end of the movie that he got all his money back because they figured out it was fraud, I would have been satisfied.

I still love the movie. My fave of the 3, by far.

I don't necessarily think it is as egrigous as you think. There was a broker for Chase that ****ed up and hit the wrong number and lost like 4 Billion dollars. I'm not sure if it ever got worked out, but especially if the exchange was in disarray for awhile.

It is certainly easy enough to suspend belief for a movie.

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