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Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.

The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

Pants · 12-04-2012, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

And I liked Jovan Belcher. I was a fan.

I'm ****ing ashamed of that fact now.

The dude was hood rat scum.

LOL

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Maybe I do.

I have gathered that he argued with his girlfriend about their relationship and finances like millions of other couples probably do and that he once punched a window a long time ago because he got mad. What am I missing?

Belcher's time at UMaine had episodes of domestic issues

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html

There have been other links provided as well during the past few days.

More:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...her/index.html

Pants · 12-05-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Belcher's time at UMaine had episodes of domestic issues

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html

There have been other links provided as well during the past few days.

Do you read the articles or just the headlines?

In case you don't feel like actually reading the articles, you can just look at my earlier post where I listed his "history of violence."

So once again, when was he arrested?

T-post Tom · 12-05-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Are you aware of his history of violence, arrests and campus reports?

I see where he punched a window in college and someone reported that he was disturbing the peace during an argument at a dorm. But I don't see where he ever assaulted anyone or was arrested for anything. No accusations of assault.

I did find that he was was a member of "Male Athletes Against Violence" while in college. No Lawrence Phillips moments that I saw. Other than what I mentioned, what else has he been in trouble for? Was he ever actually arrested? If so, I missed it.

"They had their arguments and fights," Barker says, "but nothing crazy." It was, as far as anyone knows, an isolated incident. Most of the time, Belcher was the ideal student-athlete."

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

I see where he punched a window in college and someone reported that he was disturbing the peace during an argument at a dorm. But I don't see where he ever assaulted anyone or was arrested for anything. No accusations of assault.

I did find that he was was a member of "Male Athletes Against Violence" while in college. No Lawrence Phillips moments that I saw. Other than what I mentioned, what else has he been in trouble for? Was he ever actually arrested? If so, I missed it.

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Do you read the articles or just the headlines?

In case you don't feel like actually reading the articles, you can just look at my earlier post where I listed his "history of violence."

JFC, that is NOT what you said.

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Originally Posted by Pants

Maybe I do.

I have gathered that he argued with his girlfriend about their relationship and finances like millions of other couples probably do and that he once punched a window a long time ago because he got mad. What am I missing?

Try to keep up.

Pants · 12-05-2012, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

I see where he punched a window in college and someone reported that he was disturbing the peace during an argument at a dorm. But I don't see where he ever assaulted anyone or was arrested for anything. No accusations of assault.

I did find that he was was a member of "Male Athletes Against Violence" while in college. No Lawrence Phillips moments that I saw. Other than what I mentioned, what else has he been in trouble for? Was he ever actually arrested? If so, I missed it.

According to some, he severed his thumb in that window vane attack. I linked where he had issues in Maine.

What more do you need to understand the guy couldn't handle women or a relationship? A murder?

Uh...

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

You've always been a ****ing reerun and had you threatened me in 2012 like you did in 2004, you'd have been banned.

So please, tell us all why his actions in Maine have no bearing on his in Missouri.

Pants · 12-05-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC, that is NOT what you said.

Try to keep up.

So what exactly did I say that was not true? I said right off the bat that he argued with his girlfriend and punched a window in one instance.

I'm not sure how being locked out of a building justifies as a significant or relevant event to anything, much less this murder-suicide.

Again, when was Jovan Belcher arrested and what were the charges?

Pants · 12-05-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You've always been a ****ing reerun and had you threatened me in 2012 like you did in 2004, you'd have been banned.

So please, tell us all why his actions in Maine have no bearing on his in Missouri.

Why are you getting personal with me? I don't remember ever threatening you, either.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants

So what exactly did I say that was not true? I said right off the bat that he argued with his girlfriend and punched a window in one instance.

I'm not sure how being locked out of a building justifies as a significant or relevant event to anything, much less this murder-suicide.

Again, when was Jovan Belcher arrested and what were the charges?

You're joking, right?

I'm not going to make this personal but I don't know anyone that's smashed through a plate glass window because they were mad at a girl, nor do I know anyone that was interviewed even ONCE by campus police for transgressions against women, let alone, more than once.

I'll just say this and **** all you mother****ers: If you're punching holes in drywall or bricks or pulling other stupid shit over a member of the opposite sex, you need psychological help

That is ****ED UP.

Seven BILLION people on the planet. MORE women than men. If you feel the need to hurt or injure a woman, seek help.

T-post Tom · 12-05-2012, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

According to some, he severed his thumb in that window vane attack. I linked where he had issues in Maine.

What more do you need to understand the guy couldn't handle women or a relationship? A murder?

Uh...

He punched a window... as a college student. He didn't punch a girl. He didn't get arrested. A quote from the SI article: "They had their arguments and fights," Barker says, "but nothing crazy." It was, as far as anyone knows, an isolated incident. Most of the time, Belcher was the ideal student-athlete."

Nothing documented from his past, so far, indicates a potential for murder. My point, based on current info, is that nobody could have predicted this. And the two vaguely documented instances from college didn't involve violence on others or any arrests/legal actions. Pretty benign stuff for a college student. And it wouldn't be a shocker if alcohol was involved in the window incident.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

Why are you getting personal with me? I don't remember ever threatening you, either.

John Goodman thread. You threatened to kick my ass. I gave my address for the most part and invited you over.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-05-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Nothing documented from his past, so far, indicates a potential for murder.

No, it does not. But hindsight is 50/50.

In all seriousness, there were signs. I'm not blaming anyone or castigating anyone, but, there was a little something there.

12-04-2012, 12:57 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3376009	Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B**** Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems. By CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead. His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye. Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley. The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources. Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!” Then she heard gunfire. Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said. As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe. “He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp. In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said. “I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.” Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said. But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.” When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said. Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter. Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.” Crennel tried to dissuade him. “I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’ As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head. “I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.” Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head. Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins. “He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.” The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment. Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said. Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began. Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman. Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation. Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered. Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area. Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment. Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page: “On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.… “Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!” Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.” Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.” “As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 12-04-2012 at 01:20 AM..
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