**2015 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**

[dirk digler]

Updated: 5-28


Schedule

NBA Finals: Golden State vs Cleveland Cavaliers

Game 1: Thursday, June 4, Cleveland at Golden State, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 2: Sunday, June 7, Cleveland at Golden State, 8 p.m., ABC
Game 3: Tuesday, June 9, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 4: Thursday, June 11, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 5*: Sunday, June 14, Cleveland at Golden State, 8 p.m., ABC
Game 6*: Tuesday, June 16, Golden State at Cleveland, 9 p.m., ABC
Game 7*: Friday June 19, Cleveland at Golden State, 9 p.m., ABC

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

He was magnificent this year. He coached a much better series in games 4-6. But he also was completely outcoached in games 1-3. Again, if one Cav wing plays even below average we're having a different conversation. It was way too close of a series given how enormous of a talent and depth advantage the Warriors had in this series.

It was close because Curry struggled in a couple of games as did the majority of their usual shooters. If they performed to their skill level/potential, GS would have won this in a blowout, 4-game sweep.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I can't argue with you. LeBron might have said he'd only sign if they promised him Love. Hell, I'm sure Gilbert would let LeBron be GM if that's what it took to get him back. And coach.

But who knows, really.

It's more like Gilbert ass kisses LeBron's Entourage, something Miami and Pat Riley wouldn't do.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Ironic thing is the Warriors really wanted Kevin Love.

I read today Jerry West said he would have quit if they traded Klay for Love. Kerr didn't want to trade him either.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

he wasn't a good fit with LeBron AND Kyrie. I think if it was just he and LeBron, he might have been a 25/13 guy like they thought they were getting.

At worst, he would have been a 10 X better Chris Bosh (who tried to turn himself into a non-rebounding Kevin Love 3 point specialist with LeBron the last 3 years)

Here's what the Cavs lost when they lost Kyrie.

Kyrie is an excellent ballhandler. Without Kyrie, Lebron is literally the only guy that can bring the ball up the court. Delly was terrible in this series.
Kyrie can play iso and he's excellent at it. Takes a ton of the load of Lebron.
Kyrie is an excellent three point shooter and can create his own shots. Two things the Cavs didn't have without Lebron.
Kyrie is also an underrated defender.

Love is not a good defender. His rebounding is nice, but Tristan has a bigger impact on the boards. Literally his only impact in the series is spacing and hitting 3 point shots. And even there, Kyrie was better from 3 point range than Love. No doubt whatsoever that Kyrie was much more badly missed than Love.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

it's kind of why I laugh when people try and discount GS as a great team

...the NBA has evolved into a game that teams win and lose with 3 pointers. That's how the game has evolved. No team has ever been better than this GS team...

yet people want to try and say they are done winning?

Yeah, ok. I'll believe that when I see it. They won 67 games, have a great coach, and lost a total of 4 ****ing games in the postseason this year.

I think they'll be back next year.

Golden State is a great team. But historically teams who live and die by the three end up being a bit inconsistent because it's tough to consistently hit those shots. And teams with a superior interior presence usually have more sustained success. I'm not sure that'll ever change because you can't teach height. Wait and see if Anthony Davis hits his stride and gets some shooters around him. You won't be able to stop him.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It's more like Gilbert ass kisses LeBron's Entourage, something Miami and Pat Riley wouldn't do.

That worked out so well for Pat this year.

[Hootie]

If I'm Dan Gilbert, I kiss LeBron's ass/entourage ass as well. Why wouldn't you? LeBron takes the Cavs value from like $600M to $1.5B. He's literally a $900M asset right now. At least. If Gilbert wanted to sell with LeBron on the team he'd get back whatever he wanted.

[Hammock Parties]

Join us next year when LeBron goes for not one, not two, not three, not four, but FIVE finals losses!

2016: One for the Thumb!

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by tk13

Golden State is a great team. But historically teams who live and die by the three end up being a bit inconsistent because it's tough to consistently hit those shots. And teams with a superior interior presence usually have more sustained success. I'm not sure that'll ever change because you can't teach height. Wait and see if Anthony Davis hits his stride and gets some shooters around him. You won't be able to stop him.

It's not tough to consistently hit open threes (unless you're Dellavedova). Other than a layup, it's the most efficient shot in basketball. And those are the shots they routinely get in that system.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Lee will be gone and Green will cost $15 million.

What makes everyone so sure? Lee could be Allan Houston. He's been on the block for years

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by tk13

Golden State is a great team. But historically teams who live and die by the three end up being a bit inconsistent because it's tough to consistently hit those shots. And teams with a superior interior presence usually have more sustained success. I'm not sure that'll ever change because you can't teach height. Wait and see if Anthony Davis hits his stride and gets some shooters around him. You won't be able to stop him.

you're seeing an evolved game, though

historically yes, you're right

but, as the Spurs showed, and even Miami the past few years ... the three is here to stay

it's like how the NFL has evolved into a totally different game than it was in 1990

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

If I'm Dan Gilbert, I kiss LeBron's ass/entourage ass as well. Why wouldn't you? LeBron takes the Cavs value from like $600M to $1.5B. He's literally a $900M asset right now. At least. If Gilbert wanted to sell with LeBron on the team he'd get back whatever he wanted.

Unfortunately, Lebron structured his contract so he can leave after next year if the Cavs don't kiss his ass.

Which is unfortunate. Because, sorry, but Lebron is shitty shitty shitty at personnel calls. He brought in Love, Miller, Jones, and Marion. Lobbied for Ray Allen. Griffin brought in Mozgov, Shumpert, and Smith. Pretty clear who won. It's not just this year... Lebron sunk the Cavs his first go-around too with his personnel decisions.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you're seeing an evolved game, though

historically yes, you're right

but, as the Spurs showed, and even Miami the past few years ... the three is here to stay

it's like how the NFL has evolved into a totally different game than it was in 1990

Yep. Which is why nobody has ever feared Memphis.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

That worked out so well for Pat this year.

Riley is an arrogant ****.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Unfortunately, Lebron structured his contract so he can leave after next year if the Cavs don't kiss his ass.

Which is unfortunate. Because, sorry, but Lebron is shitty shitty shitty at personnel calls. He brought in Love, Miller, Jones, and Marion. Lobbied for Ray Allen. Griffin brought in Mozgov, Shumpert, and Smith. Pretty clear who won. It's not just this year... Lebron sunk the Cavs his first go-around too with his personnel decisions.

Yup, anyone feeling sorry for Lebron should at least acknowledge the fact that it was his own damn fault in the first place. If they didn't have to dump so many resources to trade for these guys, things might have gone differently.

Also 38% shooting isn't going to cut it.