Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 325

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

mattschiefs · 10-10-2013, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

The only one crying here is you. And it's because your a thin-skinned bitch who comes on our board and expects everyone to respect you after you try to spoon feed us your bullshit. The culture here isn't changing. So change your tampon, and get the **** out. Don't let the aids tree hit you in the ass on the way out.

Hummmmm

This team is 5-0 yet you're not happy?

and what bullshit?

I have stated facts that I've been called stupid for

Rasputin · 10-10-2013, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

And you geno lovers no that if it had been Alex and not Geno you would be saying Ya but the Falcons D sucks. He has beaten up on The Bills and the Falcons Defense congrats

It's a good start for him. Something that he can build off. But he has struggled and been a turnover machine going against good defense and hell he even turned it over against the Bills Funny how 1 GREAT GAME seems to make you say I told you so against one of the worst defense in the NFL

Geno Smith was not a turnover machine in college and he has owned up to his mistakes in press and so I expect his TDs go up and his INTs go down. He is young and coachable.

Nightfyre · 10-10-2013, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

Hummmmm

This team is 5-0 yet you're not happy?

and what bullshit?

I have stated facts that I've been called stupid for

I am happy. I enjoy watching football games on Sunday for a change. That doesn't mean I am going to ignore the concrete evidence in front of my face that this offense is impotent and has not sufficiently improved given the level of investment placed in it. Oh and you are called stupid, because frankly, you are being stupid.

mattschiefs · 10-10-2013, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Geno Smith was not a turnover machine in college and he has owned up to his mistakes in press and so I expect his TDsGo up and his INTs go down. He is young and coachable.

True

And I agree his td to Int ratio should improve but he wasn't the right choice when we had a team that had the talent we did. Rookies are turnover machines. That's not a Geno thing that's a rookie QB thing.

So you expect Dorsey and Reid to say you no that talent that we have here we are going to just erase it and start over when guys like DJ and Hali are getting close to the end of there prime they are both closing in on 10 years in the league. You expect them to tell this fanbase who has been through the losing it has we are going to waste that talent and bring in a turnover machine (again a rookie qb thing not a geno thing) to replace a turnover machine and start all over even though we have talent here. They might as well have just said we don't want our jobs

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I am happy. I enjoy watching football games on Sunday for a change. That doesn't mean I am going to ignore the concrete evidence in front of my face that this offense is impotent and has not sufficiently improved given the level of investment placed in it. Oh and you are called stupid, because frankly, you are being stupid.

Again what have I said that's not FACT

Just because it doesn't support Geno doesn't mean it's stupid to state the fact.

And not sufficiently improved? Look at the 4th game on the line what has happened we have gone down the field and took the lead or clinched the game EVERY time That's not improved?

Rasputin · 10-11-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

True

And I agree his td to Int ratio should improve but he wasn't the right choice when we had a team that had the talent we did. Rookies are turnover machines. That's not a Geno thing that's a rookie QB thing.

So you expect Dorsey and Reid to say you no that talent that we have here we are going to just erase it and start over when guys like DJ and Hali are getting close to the end of there prime they are both closing in on 10 years in the league. You expect them to tell this fanbase who has been through the losing it has we are going to waste that talent and bring in a turnover machine (again a rookie qb thing not a geno thing) to replace a turnover machine and start all over even though we have talent here. They might as well have just said we don't want our jobs

Because of ****s like you we will never draft the quarterback that can be around year after year knocking that door down.

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Because of ****s like you we will never draft the quarterback that can be around yea after year knocking that door down.

UMMMMM I didn't know I was in charge of that choice

Pretty sure I have no say in the matter

Hope that makes you feel better

**BossChief** · 10-11-2013, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

So pretty much like I said you're crying because you didn't get your way.

And All Geno has done is beat up bad defense and turned the ball over we had that the last few season how would that have made us Better?

29th
30th
23rd

Those are the pass defense ranking of the NFCE teams Alex has faced.

Against the Titans, Alex threw 4 balls that probably should have been picked.

We didn't need to pass against Jacksonville.

Sorter · 10-11-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

True

And I agree his td to Int ratio should improve but he wasn't the right choice when we had a team that had the talent we did. Rookies are turnover machines. That's not a Geno thing that's a rookie QB thing.

So you expect Dorsey and Reid to say you no that talent that we have here we are going to just erase it and start over when guys like DJ and Hali are getting close to the end of there prime they are both closing in on 10 years in the league. You expect them to tell this fanbase who has been through the losing it has we are going to waste that talent and bring in a turnover machine (again a rookie qb thing not a geno thing) to replace a turnover machine and start all over even though we have talent here. They might as well have just said we don't want our jobs

Generalization with no data to support it. Fantastic job.

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

29th
30th
23rd

Those are the pass defense ranking of the NFCE teams Alex has faced.

Against the Titans, Alex threw 4 balls that probably should have been picked.

We didn't need to pass against Jacksonville.

True

we have yet to see Alex go against a good d we will then we can talk

And could of would have should have every QB has those. GENO DID have those against the Titans and the LOST Alex WON

Rasputin · 10-11-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

UMMMMM I didn't know I was in charge of that choice

Pretty sure I have no say in the matter

Hope that makes you feel better

No, but you are still part of the problem with this 'true fan' base. Think they would learn after the Carl Peterson &Pioli shit quarterbacks from other teams.

Nightfyre · 10-11-2013, 12:10 AM

I don't have time to aggregate the data, but the Chiefs offense has been gifted the most turnovers in the NFL and has been given the best field position in the NFL (both by wide margins) but still only manages 1.61 points per drive. Good for 17th in the NFL. NOT SUFFICIENTLY IMPROVED.

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Generalization with no data to support it. Fantastic job.

Peyton manning 28 ints

Big Ben 2x super bowl MVP 17 picks

There's a reason rookies use to always sit for a year or 2

But ya there's no data to support it

Nightfyre · 10-11-2013, 12:13 AM

KC Punts per drive: .516 Good for 30th in the NFL. Thank you JAX and STL for being worse. (Not even TB is worse.)

mattschiefs · 10-11-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I don't have time to aggregate the data, but the Chiefs offense has been gifted the most turnovers in the NFL and has been given the best field position in the NFL (both by wide margins) but still only manages 1.61 points per drive. Good for 17th in the NFL. NOT SUFFICIENTLY IMPROVED.

How many times in the 4th have we seen turnovers cost us the game late even to some poor teams. A LOT Instead this year we are going down the field and WINNING THE GAME that's not improved really?

View Poll Results: Who will win more games in the next five years?
Geno Smith	81	19.29%
Alex Smith	339	80.71%
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $3210478	Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season. Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him. So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period? Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote Alex: 11 wins Geno: 8 wins Last edited by Hammock Parties; 12-30-2013 at 02:56 AM..
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $2658849	I don't have time to aggregate the data, but the Chiefs offense has been gifted the most turnovers in the NFL and has been given the best field position in the NFL (both by wide margins) but still only manages 1.61 points per drive. Good for 17th in the NFL. NOT SUFFICIENTLY IMPROVED.
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10-11-2013, 12:13 AM	#4874
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $2658849	KC Punts per drive: .516 Good for 30th in the NFL. Thank you JAX and STL for being worse. (Not even TB is worse.)
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