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Old 04-03-2016, 09:48 AM  
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And so it begins: The Royals' second straight attempt to repeat as AL Champions, and first attempt to repeat as World Series champions.

In this thread, we'll track all non-gameday action. Roster moves, prospect news, etc.

I'll start the thread as usual, with division rivals thoughts. I still like KC to repeat as AL Central champs. Here's how I see the rest of it shaking out:

2) Indians - they have the pitching (and seem to have at least semi-Kluber-ed Cody Anderson, who added 3 mph to his fastball in the offseason). Will the offense hold up? I think this is a team that ends up looking a lot like the 2014 Royals. Francisco Lindor will solidify their IF defense over the full season, and is a help with the bat. I think this club is still a year away from really breaking through - the offense still has a lot of question marks - but I like them to nab a wildcard spot.

Key Player(s): Michael Brantley. When Brantley returns - and how he hits when he does - will be critical to the Indians' ability to be good enough on offense.

Jason Kipnis. Kipnis has been an enigmatic offensive performer for the past several years. If he finally has a good offensive campaign from start to finish, Cleveland could make real noise.

Something of interest to me: For all the acclaim the Twins' farm system gets, I look at the Indians young players, and would much rather have them. Brad Zimmer is going to be a very good all-around CF. Clint Frazier has huge power potential and should arrive soon (2017). Lindor is a young stud.

3) Tigers - Old and dependent on a few stars. If Verlander and Sanchez are healthy and effective, they will be playoff contenders. I'm sure JD Martinez will continue to hit roid-aided bombs. I'm also pretty sure Victor Martinez's days as a huge power threat are gone.

Key player: Justin Verlander. Detroit people would have you believe he figured out how to succeed without his big fastball in September of last year. If that's true, and he returns to dominant form, Detroit will likely contend again.

Something of interest to me: Will Jose Iglesias stay healthy and not try to kill teammates in the dugout? His defense makes the whole group much better.

4) Twins - They won't lead the division or be in playoff contention for as long this year, but Minnesota will avoid the cellar.

Key Player: Miguel Sano. Huge power, huge K rate. Can he continue to drive the ball and be a plus offensive player? Probably needs to cut that 35 percent K percentage to do so.

Something of interest to me: Will teams challenge Sano inside with hard stuff? Working away, away, just lets his power play up. Also - will Mike Berardino continue to be the biggest beat writer homer in MLB?

5) White Sox - still managed by a shitty manager who can't control his clubhouse (The blame for the LaRoche thing really should fall on him, not the GM). Still have a shitty overall defense and a lot of douchebags on the team. They will once again look better on paper than they actually perform.

Key player: Carlos Rodon. The White Sox need Rodon to take a big step forward to make an actual move this season. He's got the talent...

And, as always, here are the prospects.

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Old 08-22-2016, 03:44 PM   #4651
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**** war.

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We are going to love Mondesi, but hes just over matched at the plate. His pitch recognition is horrendous. And its supposed to be, hes barely 21 and has never really shown he has the hit tool over any decent sample in the minors. He will get there. But we are no longer a team with no shot. Mondesi will be the better otpion in a year and a half, but Colon and Whit are better options right NOW.

Colon has 247 career abs with a .340 obp and 2.0 WAR. Not bad, hes not going to amaze you but hes not scared of the moment and is the best option at 2B right noe imo
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:50 PM   #4652
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:52 PM   #4653
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If this is true - and it sounds like it may be - you would think Oakland would designate Belly for assignment or put him on waivers.

cant see the guy sticking around....

A cheap move on Butler's part if this is true - who made him the clubhouse endorsement cop??
Susan Slusser, the A's beat writer, was on 810 as I was driving home and said they have friendly banter back and forth all the time in the clubhouse and on the field, she called it big brother, little brother type banter. Billy just went over the line this time.
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:54 PM   #4654
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He did make some major missteps. He first tried to make a run at contention during the Greinke years.
I still disagree. He traded those bullpen pieces because that was ALL he had, and had shown a knack for replacing them quickly. Yeah, I'm sure he learned from not being able to replace them as easily as he thought he could, but I still don't think GMDM had any hope or intention of trying to compete on the major league level. He knew there was too much work to do in the minors first.
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Old 08-22-2016, 03:59 PM   #4655
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Old 08-22-2016, 04:09 PM   #4656
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Billy Butler told Danny Valencia's equipment rep that he doesn't wear their cleats, not just told them but then said that Valencia NEVER wears their cleats. Valencia popped him for it. Don't **** with people's endorsement deals.
Seems like that is a pretty basic and common unwritten rule that Belly broke, is it not?
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I still disagree. He traded those bullpen pieces because that was ALL he had, and had shown a knack for replacing them quickly. Yeah, I'm sure he learned from not being able to replace them as easily as he thought he could, but I still don't think GMDM had any hope or intention of trying to compete on the major league level. He knew there was too much work to do in the minors first.
I think we might be whitewashing Moore's history a bit here. There was a lot of optimism after our strong finish in 2008. Believe it or not, many were stoked that not only did we avoid a 100 loss year, but a 90 loss year as well.

On paper, Zack Greinke was finally looking like an ace, Meche looked like a an anchor in a solid rotation, Kyle Davies (yes, that Davies) had a strong finish in 08 that made many believe he was turning the corner. There was hope that Brian Bannister was due for a bounceback year, and that Hoch would start flashing #1 stuff in his sophomore year.

Moore was hopeful that adding a leadoff hitter and a cleanup guy would bolster Billy Butler's production and give Alex Gordon the lineup protection he needed to finally breakout as a hitter. However, to bolster this lineup caused the Royals to depart with the strongest part of their 2008 team.

There was a definite excitement coming from the Royals FO after 2008. It was commonly said that if KC had gone 6-6 during an 0-12 stretch in May, the Royals would have finished with a .500 record.

Unfortunately, 2009 made it clear that Moore had a bad read on the talent of his team. He relied on no talent all grit guys like Yuni and Gload, pinned the offense in hitters and defenders not suited for the park like Guillen and Jacobs, and put his trust into "all faith" guys like Barnyard Trey, who proceeded to ruin Meche's career by leaving him out for 120 pitches a start. Moore originally defended this, questioning the science behind pitch counts and arguing it was more of a "feel thing." At the time, Moore didn't even seem to put a lot of stock into defense. Openly admitting that he "didn't understand" defensive analytics and put out a team that featured Billy/Jacobs at first, Guillen in left, Yuni at third, and Buck/Olivo at the plate. Even Alex Gordon was positioned at 3rd at the time, where he was never more than a mediocre defender.

Moore undeniably thought the Royals were in a position to compete in 2009. The leaps the team has made since illustrates his evolution as a GM, and there's no one I'd rather have at the lead of our organization.

In GMDM I trust.
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Two years ago, the Royals came out of nowhere to make the World Series. Last year, that momentum carried over to viewers as Kansas City led MLB teams in local ratings. After winning the World Series last year, Kansas City is still watching a ton of baseball. Ratings-wise the two teams from Missouri boast the top two spots in baseball, per Forbes.

Ratings are particular to markets and don’t directly translate into raw viewer numbers, as the figures are based on the percentage of households in that market. Or, rephrased: just because a greater percentage of people are watching games in Kansas City, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh, that doesn’t necessarily mean more total people are watching than in other markets. The chart below shows the raw number of households, on average, that are watching each game on the local channel.




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I think we might be whitewashing Moore's history a bit here. There was a lot of optimism after our strong finish in 2008. Believe it or not, many were stoked that not only did we avoid a 100 loss year, but a 90 loss year as well.



On paper, Zack Greinke was finally looking like an ace, Meche looked like a an anchor in a solid rotation, Kyle Davies (yes, that Davies) had a strong finish in 08 that made many believe he was turning the corner. There was hope that Brian Bannister was due for a bounceback year, and that Hoch would start flashing #1 stuff in his sophomore year.



Moore was hopeful that adding a leadoff hitter and a cleanup guy would bolster Billy Butler's production and give Alex Gordon the lineup protection he needed to finally breakout as a hitter. However, to bolster this lineup caused the Royals to depart with the strongest part of their 2008 team.



There was a definite excitement coming from the Royals FO after 2008. It was commonly said that if KC had gone 6-6 during an 0-12 stretch in May, the Royals would have finished with a .500 record.



Unfortunately, 2009 made it clear that Moore had a bad read on the talent of his team. He relied on no talent all grit guys like Yuni and Gload, pinned the offense in hitters and defenders not suited for the park like Guillen and Jacobs, and put his trust into "all faith" guys like Barnyard Trey, who proceeded to ruin Meche's career by leaving him out for 120 pitches a start. Moore originally defended this, questioning the science behind pitch counts and arguing it was more of a "feel thing." At the time, Moore didn't even seem to put a lot of stock into defense. Openly admitting that he "didn't understand" defensive analytics and put out a team that featured Billy/Jacobs at first, Guillen in left, Yuni at third, and Buck/Olivo at the plate. Even Alex Gordon was positioned at 3rd at the time, where he was never more than a mediocre defender.



Moore undeniably thought the Royals were in a position to compete in 2009. The leaps the team has made since illustrates his evolution as a GM, and there's no one I'd rather have at the lead of our organization.



In GMDM I trust.

Would have been interesting to see what would have happened had that 2009 team not lost Coco Crisp. They were in contention until that point, but lack of depth killed them.

Hillman was also an abortion of a manager who ruined Moore's first really good scouting victory (Meche).


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