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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-13-2015, 09:07 AM   #436
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Looks like Rany agrees with me that we should sell out for the next couple years.








Rany's takes on the Royals have been dead wrong over the last 3 years.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:17 AM   #437
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Looks like Rany agrees with me that we should sell out for the next couple years.








If Gordon will take 5/80 or 6/90, you do it in a heartbeat.
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:43 AM   #438
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If Gordon will take 5/80 or 6/90, you do it in a heartbeat.
I would be okay with 4 years/ 80 mil. for Gordon. 4 years would be ideal. But 5 years for 80?

If someone gets Gordon for 5/80, then his agents not doing his job. Further, if he gets THAT contract and its not David Glass giving it out, then I think most Royals fan will become leery of Glass again and wonder if he really IS in it to win it or in it to make money . . . . .
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:51 AM   #439
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:58 AM   #440
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Cueto had the meltdown in Toronto. He also had 2 amazing starts and one mediocre start.

He won two games for us by being dominant, lost one game for us by being terrible, and was kind of neutral in one game.

We almost certainly don't win the Series without him.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:16 AM   #441
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:28 AM   #442
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:38 AM   #443
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The price of success. Postseason ticket rights will not be available to 20-game STH's in 2016.
Not surprising, apparently a lot of people hated it this postseason since 3 of every 4 people assigned to a seat for a 20 pack had to be assigned something worse for the postseason... and they might run out of seats next season.

They could still give priority to those who have purchased them several years in a row, or set a limit, but I guess it's easier that way and creates less fake outrage.
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Not surprising, apparently a lot of people hated it this postseason since 3 of every 4 people assigned to a seat for a 20 pack had to be assigned something worse for the postseason... and they might run out of seats next season.

They could still give priority to those who have purchased them several years in a row, or set a limit, but I guess it's easier that way and creates less fake outrage.
I got moved to worse seats for the postseason and gave 0 ****s. I was on the fence renewing anyway, but I can't justify being a 41 game plan owner living out of market. I was never trying to make anything, just pay for my plan and maybe sell a couple post season tickets to offset some of my travel expenses to the games I was able to attend. With ALCS tickets selling for face value the year we won the whole thing, I can't imagine they'll be difficult to get on a repeat run. Oh well, we won the World ****ing Series.
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Rany's takes on the Royals have been dead wrong over the last 3 years.
This is dead wrong.
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Cueto had the meltdown in Toronto. He also had 2 amazing starts and one mediocre start.

He won two games for us by being dominant, lost one game for us by being terrible, and was kind of neutral in one game.

We almost certainly don't win the Series without him.
Agreed but as a whole the rotation sucked this year and should be a priority. For some reason our "Ace" lost about 5MPH velocity in NY.
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Starting pitchers are the most expensive thing to acquire. I am fine with spending the bulk of our money on Gordon and Zobrist and making due with spare parts in the starting rotation - then maybe trade for another ace at the deadline.
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Old 11-13-2015, 12:05 PM   #448
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Starting pitchers are the most expensive thing to acquire. I am fine with spending the bulk of our money on Gordon and Zobrist and making due with spare parts in the starting rotation - then maybe trade for another ace at the deadline.
I agree. Re-upping with Young should be a huge priority. Volquez, Ventura, Duffy, Young, Medlen, Zimmer(?) should be plenty to get us to the postseason if we can keep Gordon and Zobrist. Orlando and Dyson can platoon in RF.

I think it's very doable under our current salary restrictions unless someone makes a huge offer for Alex or Ben.
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