Not just done with KC,done with the NFL

[Nzoner]

Yet another thread and I even went as far tonight that I gave away a very nice Chiefs coat and chiefs stocking cap at the party I was at.Also quit my fantasy football league and am renouncing the NFL as a whole.

Pro football is nothing more than pro wrestling only the stage is 50,000 times larger and the NFL just might get their Luck/Manning rematch and maybe even their Manning/Brady rematch.I ****ing hate to think this shit is rigged but at 51 I've seen much to much over the years and am done being made a fool of.

Oh and lastly this years pro bowl will be a fantasy draft,really,wake the **** up people we're watching another form of Hollywood where some of the actors are paid millions and some are just bit players.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Here's some penalty stats:
NOTE--stats include playoff games, so a few teams have played an extra game

Total penalties called against
Seattle - 128 (#1)
Denver - 117 (4th)
KC - 103 (14th)

Penalties called against opponents of
KC - 116 (2)
Denver - 97 (18)

Offensive holding called on
New Orleans - 29 (1)
KC - 26 (2)
Denver - 21 (9)
league average - 17

Offensive holding called on opponents of
KC - 20
Denver - 21

Roughing the QB called on opponents of
Denver - 0
KC - 1

Have fun:
http://www.nflpenalties.com/

You're just as guilty as those who hide behind the number of penalties and call things "even". Its so easy to make things look that way. Now try listing the game changers and you might be surprised. And just when you think that you have something, try listing the IMPOSSIBLE- to-list NON-CALLS which can be KILLERS. So your stats are useless if that's all you've got.

[HMc]

Originally Posted by TEX

Typical... That's NOT what he's saying but it IS what you KEEP hearing. Wonder why?

Because I'm not so stupid as to attribute "blown calls" to conspiracy when human error is a much more likely explanation.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by TEX

You're just as guilty as those who hide behind the number of penalties and call things "even". Its so easy to make things look that way. Now try listing the game changers and you might be surprised. And just when you think that you have something, try listing the IMPOSSIBLE- to-list NON-CALLS which can be KILLERS. So your stats are useless if that's all you've got.

True, I have no stats on non-calls. But when someone says that Denver never gets holding called against them, am I just supposed to believe that? Sure, I can see their games against the Chiefs and a few others, but I have no idea what's going on with every other team by comparison. I'm just supposed to believe your assertion as fact because you feel it is true? Look, I yell at the TV too, but I can't just assume that we're getting screwed compared to everyone else and that Denver is screwing everyone. Feelings don't count. Data does.

Then I assume you aren't impressed that Denver's Orlando Franklin has the 2nd-most offensive holding penalties called against him (7), including two vs KC.

[BurtGummer44Magnum]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Here's some penalty stats:
NOTE--stats include playoff games, so a few teams have played an extra game

Total penalties called against
Seattle - 128 (#1)
Denver - 117 (4th)
KC - 103 (14th)

Penalties called against opponents of
KC - 116 (2)
Denver - 97 (18)

Offensive holding called on
New Orleans - 29 (1)
KC - 26 (2)
Denver - 21 (9)
league average - 17

Offensive holding called on opponents of
KC - 20
Denver - 21

Roughing the QB called on opponents of
Denver - 0
KC - 1

These stats have no context. How many were called on running plays vs passing plays, during close games or blow outs, in what quarter, in what down and distance etc....................

[rabblerouser]

First of all, I want to make it clear that in most cases, I don't believe players are throwing games for personal gain. They're doing it because they have no choice if they want to continue playing. It's required by the system, and they don't get anything out of it other than being allowed to stay on the team.

Not only do you have to be a good athlete to play major college sports, you also need to have some acting ability.

In football, quarterbacks throw interceptions and get sacked on purpose, and they fumble the snap or fumble when they get hit. Running backs and receivers fumble the ball away intentionally and drop easy passes, and linemen intentionally blow their blocking assignments. Then they usually put on a public display of phony emotion, designed to show how embarrassed and disappointed they are. That's to cover up the fact that they did it on purpose.

On defense, cornerbacks deliberately give receivers a nice cushion and let them catch the ball, then let them slip away from their tackles on purpose. And defenders repeatedly miss easy tackles. Manti T'eo missed a ton of tackles when Notre Dame Threw One for the Gipper against Alabama in last season's national championship game.

Also, place kickers miss field goals on purpose. Brendan Gibbons, usually an excellent kicker for Michigan, missed an easy game-winning field goal against Penn State, and also had another game-winner blocked, although that may have been the fault of the offensive line for letting the defenders rush in on purpose.

For more on why Michigan, Notre Dame, the Chicago Bears, Chicago Cubs and various other teams are required to throw so many games, see this:
http://sportsfraud.blogspot.com/2013...s-of-this.html

Another thing that happens is that key players fake injuries to hurt their team's chances and give the team an excuse for losing the game. And coaches cooperate by failing to make obvious strategy adjustments and taking a laissez-faire attitude when their team starts to go into meltdown mode.

For example, in last year's "loss" to Ohio State, Michigan kept trying to run the ball up the middle in the second half with little success, despite having great success in the first half by throwing the ball and running wide. After scoring 21 points in the first half, they were shut out in the second half because of play-calling that appeared to be stupid, but was actually deliberate. It was designed to fail.

Michigan was forced to throw all its losses this season, including the 17-13 "loss" to Nebraska. Devin Gardner, easily one of the quickest, fastest and most agile quarterbacks in the country, inexplicably forgot how to elude the pass rush in this game. When he's not actually trying to get sacked, he's adept at dodging tacklers. Just ask Notre Dame and some of the other teams he's exploited this season.

http://sportsfraud.blogspot.com/2013...re_14.html?m=1

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by BurtGummer44Magnum

These stats have no context. How many were called on running plays vs passing plays, during close games or blow outs, in what quarter, in what down and distance etc....................

Dude, I'm not going to wipe your rear for you--I got you this much info and the source. I don't know how much further you can find stats broken down without reviewing each individual box score.

At the very least, at its face, we can see that Denver doesn't appear to be getting preferential treatment and the Chiefs don't appear to be getting a screw job.

I don't have the time or energy, but someone with nothing else to do should definitely review all the Chiefs games and note all the holding no-calls on Hali. Then do the same for some other premier pass rushers. Cross-check against the premier QBs. This is an excellent project for someone that isn't me.

[Simply Red]

zoner will be back next season.

[durtyrute]

Originally Posted by HMc

Because I'm not so stupid as to attribute "blown calls" to conspiracy when human error is a much more likely explanation.

That's what replay is for. You don't give a team five down by accident. So now we shouldn't expect the refs to count to four, right?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

http://sportsfraud.blogspot.com/2013...re_14.html?m=1

Dude.

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

For more on why Michigan, Notre Dame, the Chicago Bears, Chicago Cubs and various other teams are required to throw so many games, see this:
http://sportsfraud.blogspot.com/2013...s-of-this.html

That link leads you to this:

I don't claim to know how and why all these games are being fixed, but I do know that high-ranking Freemasons are responsible for most of the corruption that's decimating college and professional sports. And sometimes they fix games to punish me for breaking away from the Masonic cult into which I was born or to punish me for something I said, wrote or did in the days and hours leading up to game time, or even during the game.

All this is possible because the Masons have had me under illegal surveillance my entire life. And for the past 10 years, I've been under illegal surveillance in the "privacy" of my own home with top-secret, classified, military-grade surveillance equipment that allows the perpetrators to see through the walls of my home. See www.brussellsprout.blogspot.com.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Dude.

That link leads you to this:

The crazies that weren't already in this thread should be arriving shortly.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

We'll certainly be notified by these twits shortly after the game ends.

Seeing that I'm one of the twits that believes certain games have been fixed and/or tilted be it by a player,ref,coach,owner,etc. I 'd like to make one last comment to your ignorant ass and I'll copy and paste from the rigged thread.

I find it fascinating that intelligent adults know from history that the 1919 World Series was fixed,that an NFL player by the name of Art Schlichter a gambling addict actually sought out help from the NFL because he feared the bookies would force him to throw games in return for not telling the Colts about his activities,that legendary baseball player Pete Rose admitted to betting on his own games while a manager and that most recently former NBA referee Tim Donaghy was released on $250,000 bail after pleading guilty to two felonies related to wagering on games he officiated and supplying inside information on games to others.

AND YET CANNOT AT LEAST OPEN THEIR MIND TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THAT SHIT COULD BE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Welcome back.

[Nzoner]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Welcome back.

Did I say I was leaving CP?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Did I say I was leaving CP?

they just figured you were leaving, just like they figure 'fixed' means 'rehearsed'

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by Nzoner

Seeing that I'm one of the twits that believes certain games have been fixed and/or tilted be it by a player,ref,coach,owner,etc. I 'd like to make one last comment to your ignorant ass and I'll copy and paste from the rigged thread.

I find it fascinating that intelligent adults know from history that the 1919 World Series was fixed,that an NFL player by the name of Art Schlichter a gambling addict actually sought out help from the NFL because he feared the bookies would force him to throw games in return for not telling the Colts about his activities,that legendary baseball player Pete Rose admitted to betting on his own games while a manager and that most recently former NBA referee Tim Donaghy was released on $250,000 bail after pleading guilty to two felonies related to wagering on games he officiated and supplying inside information on games to others.

AND YET CANNOT AT LEAST OPEN THEIR MIND TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT THAT SHIT COULD BE JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG

Other than the World Series 95 years ago, none of the incidents you mentioned involve actually fixing the game.

Also, most of the discussion here has been about the NFL fixing its own games. Most who believe this believe the league is directing the refs to sway the outcome, but some seem to believe players and coaches are also in on it. And that they are doing it for the purpose of setting up certain matchups in the playoffs and Super Bowl, and to promote certain players. There's just no evidence of that whatsoever--just the paranoia of kooks who can't accept reality.