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2/10's of a second faster than Jarvis Landry was at the combine while having to change his starting sprint stance because of a broken thumb.
The difference between Mayle and Hemingway is that Mayle gets off the line and out of his breaks quickly. Hemingway, for whatever reason (and it's not due to athleticism or speed that he has, because he does have both) doesn't have that initial burst on the field. Or at least hasn't shown it. He's been a long strider that needs build up speed, which is interesting as his three cone and shuttle times were excellent. (Just goes to show you that numbers aren't necessarily the end all, be all of judging a player.) Mayle plays quick for a guy his size and shows good burst. He's also been insanely productive while having to deal with double teams for the entire 2014 season. They couldn't really hide him or protect him at Washington State. |
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interestingly enough the chiefs are going to work out a TE (Will Tye) who is as tall as Vince Mayle, and is much faster while weighing 40lbs more.
the chiefs have done a good job acquiring speed at the skill positions Maclin 4.43 forty Wilson 4.43 DAT 4.39 proday Charles 4.38 Davis 4.37 Kelce 4.61 (similar weight/speed as Will Tye) Da'Rick Rodgers 4.52 Speed (specifically immediate speed) at the skill position makes a lot of sense for the chiefs. It gets the ball out of Alex Smith's hands quickly (saving him from sacks) while making the offensive line look better because they dont have to pass protect as long. Last edited by planetdoc; 04-03-2015 at 09:14 PM.. |
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Fast guys I assume.
The problem with the 40 time is that it doesn't necessarily translate to field, game day speed - especially at the skill positions, where you rarely get an opportunity to just burst on down the field in a straight line untouched. There's a reason that teams pay attention to the 3 Cone and Shuttle times as well as watch the guys on tape in pads. As an example, the TE that planetdoc mentioned, Will Tye, while possessing an incredible 40 time, does not have the stats to necessarily back up his time 40 speed and athleticism that one would initially assume goes with that raw speed. Averaged about 40 catches for 500 yards and 4.5 TD's while at Stony Brook against Stony Brook level competition. And he could not get onto the field at Florida State in his first two years in college football. (One reception for 7 yards in two years. That's it.) Then you have the case of Jarvis Landry, who, at 5'11" and 190 lb., runs an incredibly slow 4.8 40 at the combine but has a terrific rookie year last year for the Dolphins catching 84 passes for 758 yards and 5 TDs. |
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So, I think what you are referencing is quickness and agility, combined with burst, to get into the routes cleanly.
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Tyler Lockett's NFL.com draft profile and workout numbers are very close to Desean Jackson's NFL.com draft profile and workout numbers. Lockett's route running and hand use vs press coverage make him as likely as any prospect to be a solid contributor as a rookie. That will elevate his draft stock in NFL draft rooms more than it will on the media draft boards. If the Chiefs want Lockett, they will have to get him at pick #49 (barring trades) because he will not be available at pick #80. The Eagles drafted Desean Jackson at pick #49.
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You take him, IMO. We have been so WR poor for so long, I want a full stable of impact guys as quickly as possible.
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kenny bell is a pretty good all around wr
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