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A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.
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04-25-2012, 01:37 PM | #437 |
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I'd have to give the edge to Jaime, but Ned was a tough SOB.
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I would have to say definitely Jamie, but I'm biased by the way he's portreyed basically from the get-go in the first book, as this unbeatable badass swordsman. I don't remember seeing that shown on TV to this point, although maybe I'm forgetting something.
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First time I had any like for Jaime.
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Yeah. They've done a poor job (and I mean comparatively, I love the show) of conveying the badassness of certain characters. Sir Loras, Jaime, and the Hound all three for example.
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Also, last season when they captured Jaime, one of the characters tells Catelyn Stark that Jaime killed 10 of their men before they could subdue him. But they didn't show it, which would have been more impactful. |
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In case you have not read the books, you should understand that every chapter in the books is told from the point of view of a specific character (not first person, but you get to hear their thoughts and reactions, and you only get to see what they see). Since no POV character was at that battle, we are only told about it second hand. The show was pretty faithful to the books on that one. |
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As far as some people not being badass's.....Seems to me that a lot are bad ass. I was under the impresssion that Jamie and Father Stark were the badest of the badass's.
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Ned Stark was a capable fighter and good soldier and military leader, but I never got the impression he was as skilled in a one on one fight as a guy like Jaime Lannister who is supposedly one of the best swordsmen in Westeros.
Gay Loras is another who is supposedly really good, though mostly his reputation is from tournaments rather than actual war which is why Catelyn told Renly in the last episode that she felt sorry for his young knights as "they are the knights of summer, and winter is coming." |
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Might it be possible that Ned was just as good as Jaime but just didn't have the same kind of ego or desire to be recognized? That others just didn't know how good he was because he never felt the need to show off? He did mention (to Jaime, I believe it was) that he didn't participate in tournaments and left his fighting for actual war.
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