Chiefs Chiefs trade (Arenas) for...wait for it...a FB? - Page 30

ct · 12:57 PM

Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs...er Cardinals.
New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM

WTF?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...nthony-sherman

Namor40 · 05-01-2013, 03:29 PM

Sherman is a very good special teams player, made some big hits and big plays on special teams for Arizona last year. He's also a high quality blocker and a solid receiver out of the backfield. There's a lot of ways that they can utilize him next year.

Marcellus · 05-01-2013, 03:29 PM

What is funny is how hard people have flip flopped on Arenas now.

He was almost universally hated except by me and a few others and now this....

Setsuna · 05-01-2013, 03:31 PM

Frankie Hammond is a decent pickup. He has the talent, I just doubted the WR coaches at UF. They were horrible. Still are. He should make the team. He could certainly replace Dexter.

Shox · 05-01-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Namor40

Sherman is a very good special teams player, made some big hits and big plays on special teams for Arizona last year. He's also a high quality blocker and a solid receiver out of the backfield. There's a lot of ways that they can utilize him next year.

They said the same thing about Cooper 15 years ago. It made a huge difference, not. Winning organizations do not make roster spots for special teamers. They don't make trades for special teamers, they trade special teamers to other teams.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2013, 03:31 PM

We all agree that SF probably has the best blueprint in the league when it comes to teambuilding right now, yes?

2 years ago they were an amazing ST unit. Last year they regressed a bit - so what did they do? They went out and spent a fair amount of money in targeting Dan Skuta as a priority FA. Why? Because they wanted to firm up their STs.

And no, they didn't trade anybody for him, but that's where people seem to be getting hung up here - I really don't think the Chiefs did either. They were going to face a roster crunch at CB. They looked at their options and decided they like Menzie and Commings over Arenas. I don't see that as being at all unreasonable. The question then becomes whether or not they would've kept a 6th CB and if that 6th CB should've been Arenas or Brown.

And you guys are really flipping out over that? Who cares? Honestly, I'd rather keep Brown. Brown has more upside from a physical standpoint and doesn't appear to have completely maxed from a technique standpoint. Moreover, Brown was a really good player on the coverage unit for us last year. Jalil Brown offers a little more upside as a prospect and definitely offers more special teams value.

So no, I can't get upset that they chose Brown over Arenas either.

They chose to make a commitment to their STs in Brown and Sherman instead of holding onto a limited CB with no remaining upside.

nychief · 05-01-2013, 03:32 PM

The faux indignation over this just makes this place look like a nut house. Just a bunch of people who are looking for stupid shit to bitch a out. I'm done talking about it. Can't wait to see all the Arenas jerseys at arrowhead this fall, pour one out for our fallen brother Javi...

Mr. Arrowhead · 05-01-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

this place is trippin.

No joke over 2 guys traded that suck, o don't you love the off-season

Kylo Ren · 05-01-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

pun intended?

Sure.

**bevischief** · 05-01-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

this place is trippin.

Yep welcome to the off-season. Enjoy.

Strongside · 05-01-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief

The faux indignation over this just makes this place look like a nut house. Just a bunch of people who are looking for stupid shit to bitch a out. I'm done talking about it. Can't wait to see all the Arenas jerseys at arrowhead this fall, pour one out for our fallen brother Javi...

I'm sure the Cardinals are having trouble with their online store maintenance trying to keep up with all of the Arenas jersey orders too.

DJ's left nut · 05-01-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

They said the same thing about Cooper 15 years ago. It made a huge difference, not. Winning organizations do not make roster spots for special teamers. They don't make trades for special teamers, they trade special teamers to other teams.

Well this is certainly inaccurate.

Winning organizations, especially of late, have often made moves expressly designed to tighten up their special teams units.

You're just wrong here.

saphojunkie · 05-01-2013, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

This deal does not really matter. JA or whoever this FB is would very likley not be on our roster. That is not the point.

I'm tired of front office doing stupid deals that make no sense to me.

FYP

Shox · 05-01-2013, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Well this is certainly inaccurate.

Winning organizations, especially of late, have often made moves expressly designed to tighten up their special teams units.

You're just wrong here.

Other than a return man, examples please.

Shox · 05-01-2013, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

FYP

Or to anyone else who knows anything at all about NFL football, which leave you out.

Shox · 05-01-2013, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shox

Other than a return man, examples please.

Waiting.............

05-01-2013, 10:21 AM
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	Chiefs trade (Arenas) for...wait for it...a FB? Chiefs acquired FB Anthony Sherman from the Chiefs...er Cardinals. New Cards head coach Bruce Arians has no room for plodding fullbacks in his aggressive, vertical offense. So Sherman heads to Andy Reid's West Coast scheme as Jamaal Charles' lead blocker. The 2011 fifth-rounder graded out 20th among 25 qualifying fullbacks in Pro Football Focus' rankings last season. May 1 - 12:11 PM WTF? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...nthony-sherman Last edited by ct; 05-01-2013 at 12:57 PM.. Reason: rotoworld typo
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Namor40 Starter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004995	Sherman is a very good special teams player, made some big hits and big plays on special teams for Arizona last year. He's also a high quality blocker and a solid receiver out of the backfield. There's a lot of ways that they can utilize him next year.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $2822662	What is funny is how hard people have flip flopped on Arenas now. He was almost universally hated except by me and a few others and now this....
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Setsuna Paladin Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Gator Country Casino cash: $10008487	Frankie Hammond is a decent pickup. He has the talent, I just doubted the WR coaches at UF. They were horrible. Still are. He should make the team. He could certainly replace Dexter.
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DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $2719099	We all agree that SF probably has the best blueprint in the league when it comes to teambuilding right now, yes? 2 years ago they were an amazing ST unit. Last year they regressed a bit - so what did they do? They went out and spent a fair amount of money in targeting Dan Skuta as a priority FA. Why? Because they wanted to firm up their STs. And no, they didn't trade anybody for him, but that's where people seem to be getting hung up here - I really don't think the Chiefs did either. They were going to face a roster crunch at CB. They looked at their options and decided they like Menzie and Commings over Arenas. I don't see that as being at all unreasonable. The question then becomes whether or not they would've kept a 6th CB and if that 6th CB should've been Arenas or Brown. And you guys are really flipping out over that? Who cares? Honestly, I'd rather keep Brown. Brown has more upside from a physical standpoint and doesn't appear to have completely maxed from a technique standpoint. Moreover, Brown was a really good player on the coverage unit for us last year. Jalil Brown offers a little more upside as a prospect and definitely offers more special teams value. So no, I can't get upset that they chose Brown over Arenas either. They chose to make a commitment to their STs in Brown and Sherman instead of holding onto a limited CB with no remaining upside. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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nychief MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NYC Casino cash: $6909466	The faux indignation over this just makes this place look like a nut house. Just a bunch of people who are looking for stupid shit to bitch a out. I'm done talking about it. Can't wait to see all the Arenas jerseys at arrowhead this fall, pour one out for our fallen brother Javi... __________________ Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
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