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Old 06-19-2019, 11:44 AM  
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NFL says PI agianst the Chargers was wrong

First off...I will say "No shit".

Second...it's convenient for them to say it now. It kept the Chargers/Chiefs battle for the AFCW title interesting until the end. *cough* ratings...

Third...**** you Chargers

NFL essentially admits making a mistake that aided Chargers in win over Chiefs

Earlier this month, NFL.com writer Adam Rank said the Chargers are the clear favorite in the AFC West, even though the Chiefs have won the division three straight seasons.

Rank said Chargers fans don’t need to worry about this Chiefs in the upcoming season in part because LA won 22-21 at Arrowhead Stadium last December. But at the NFL Media Summit, the NFL essentially admitted it made a huge mistake that helped the Chargers win that game.

Let’s turn the clock back to that game on Dec. 13.

The Chiefs led 21-14, but the Chargers had the ball at the Kansas City 10-yard line with 13 seconds to play. It was third down and Los Angeles was out of timeouts when quarterback Philip Rivers threw a pass to Mike Williams that fell incomplete in the end zone.

A flag was thrown and pass interference was called giving the Chargers the ball at the 1-yard line with 8 seconds to play. Rivers threw a TD pass to Williams, converted a two-point try* and Los Angeles won.

*That was maybe the worst defensive play for the Chiefs in 2018

But Alberto Riveron, the NFL’s Senior Vice President of Officiating, used that play Tuesday as a way to explain the new pass-interference review rule. And he showed the officials got it wrong last December.

Michael Girardi of the NFL Network shared a clip of the play and said Riveron explained that a review would have changed the call to offensive pass interference.


At NFL Media Summit, #NFL SVP of Officiating Al Riveron is showing us the new OPI/DPI review rules. Week 15 between #Chiefs/#Chargers. DPI is called. Automatic review under 2 minutes. This play would be offset. Mike Williams guilty of OPI, negating Fuller's DPI. Down replayed. pic.twitter.com/LxNb2g07JI
— Michael Giardi (@MikeGiardi) June 18, 2019

In the clip, the Chiefs’ Kendall Fuller, who was flagged for the penalty, was clearly upset with the official’s call and his teammates were saying Williams should have been penalized.

That would have given the Chargers the ball at the 20 having to make a third-and-goal call with 8 seconds to play. They could have scored a touchdown, but it’s hard to argue that it wouldn’t have been a much more difficult chore.

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...#storylink=cpy
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:47 PM   #31
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There was a helmet to helmet on Rivers prior to the pass interference call that didn't get called either.

The PI for the mike williams throw to me seems like the officiating was making up for the prior missed call.

But lets forget about that....
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:50 PM   #32
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Yes, because he didn't touch the ball. There were plenty of angles on the play, and it's very clear. The one angle where it seems maybe he did -- you get the camera shot on the other side that CLEARLY establishes he didn't. It was blind ****ing luck. By rights he coulda/shoulda touched it, and it's returned for a TD, but he just got damn lucky.



Didn't touch the ground. No angle shows it does. Can't overturn it without indisputable evidence.

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which is why I thought the muffed punt should've been upheld.
Did he likely not touch it? probably...but from the angles I remember i didn't think it was indisputable.

of course, it's also been months since I watched the game so I'm just going off of memory. So hell, I dunno.
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:52 PM   #33
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Yeah I don't get too concerned with referee mistakes.

You just know they're coming and for the most part and especially long term, you get just as many favourable bad calls as the opposite team.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:01 PM   #34
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which is why I thought the muffed punt should've been upheld.
Did he likely not touch it? probably...but from the angles I remember i didn't think it was indisputable.

of course, it's also been months since I watched the game so I'm just going off of memory. So hell, I dunno.

I think if you piece together all the angles it was pretty clear he didn't touch it.

Ultimately, it didn't matter anyway -- the Chiefs picked the ball off two plays later (Edelman failed to catch it you may recall) and then scored a TD two plays after that, so you guys ended up at the same place, only like a minute later by game clock time.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:02 PM   #35
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:06 PM   #36
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So, technically the thread title is incorrect. The "PI against the Chargers was wrong" isn't quite right becuase the NFL is now saying that the PI call should have stood as called, but would have been offset by a matching PI call against the Chargers, resulting in replaying the down.

I also don't understand the final sentence. Why would the Chargers have had the ball moved back 10 yards? Halfway through the post it says they had the ball at the 10 with 13 seconds left to play. The Chargers aren't assessed a 10 yard OPI if there is an offsetting defensive PI, which is what they are saying.

So it's Chargers ball on, 3rd and Goal, from the KC 10 yard line, with 8 seconds left.



Ultimately didn't matter right? You guys got the 1 seed, so the loss was irrelevant.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:11 PM   #37
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The only replay I could find suggests Fuller MAY have been holding Williams' left arm down.

There's a real question whether that ball is even catchable in the end zone. It was pretty seriously overthrown.

That's definitely a tough call to go against you and give them the ball at the 1 with a fresh set of downs.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:29 PM   #38
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There was a helmet to helmet on Rivers prior to the pass interference call that didn't get called either.

The PI for the mike williams throw to me seems like the officiating was making up for the prior missed call.

But lets forget about that....
True. They did miss a personal foul on us for that helmet to helmet hit. (Ford, wasn't it...?)
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:30 PM   #39
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The Chiefs handed the Patriots the game. We employed a mongoloid who couldn’t even line up on side. We also employed another older mongoloid who couldn’t scheme a defense to get one 3rd and 10 stop with three tries.

FFS dude we blew it. The league didn’t even have to do anything
Brady and the Pats flat out tried to give us the game.

They kicked the Chiefs ass up and down the field. If not for some uncharacteristic Brady picks this game is a complete blowout.

It opened my eyes to say the least.

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The defense cost KC that game, not the officials.

Roberta Sutton spread open his saggy, dusty vagina and offered it up to Phillip, who proceeded to penetrate Roberta with reckless abandon, stopping only after finishing in Roberta's end zone...twice.
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True. They did miss a personal foul on us for that helmet to helmet hit. (Ford, wasn't it...?)
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The defense cost KC that game, not the officials.

Roberta Sutton spread open his saggy, dusty vagina and offered it up to Phillip, who proceeded to penetrate Roberta with reckless abandon, stopping only after finishing in Roberta's end zone...twice.
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Anyone want to tell me...with a straight face...that this play gets reversed if it was against the Chiefs.

It was the difference between NE going home or winning...they took a game winning TD off the board.

Stop the horseshit...and at the very worst is was a fumble which was too late as it already crossed the goal line.



The same Patriot douchebags will say it wasn't catch then vehemently defend this as a legitimate one.


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That's right. It was a golden opportunity to give the Chargers 15 and a 1st in a critical situation, and it's a totally legitimate penalty, if called.
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