MILLER: It Is Officially Time to Buy the Hype on Patrick Mahomes

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I know this was posted in the Mahomes thread, but a lot of you hate mega threads and might miss this piece otherwise so, here it is: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...atrick-mahomes

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Every so often, a player comes along with expectations so high that it's almost impossible for him to live up to them. Jadeveon Clowney after he destroyed that poor Michigan running back comes to mind. Even as he's developed into one of the best defenders in the NFL, people still consider him overrated.

Living up to the hype is tough. And if you're a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs, you've picked a side when it comes to the potential of second-year quarterback Patrick Mahomes II.

General manager Brett Veach didn't help matters when he, in a post-draft press conference this year, called Mahomes "one of the best players I've ever seen." Some will see a GM confident in his selection (and the trade up to get Mahomes) the previous year. Others see a bar set impossibly high for a player with one career start before the team shipped off incumbent Alex Smith to clear the way for him.

Is the hype real? That's a question I asked many of the Chiefs front office staff, coaches and players.

"Oh, it's real" said a member of the coaching staff. "We've been watching him for a year and he just keeps getting better and better. Sure, there are mistakes, but there are also plays I've never seen a quarterback make before."

Something you hear a lot from people inside the organization: "He makes plays unlike anything we've ever seen before."

Great quarterbacks are often defined by their ability to create, make plays and make the people around them better. One source in the scouting staff pointed back to how well Mahomes did against the Chiefs' starting defense last year while "playing with a bunch of practice squad receivers" and noted "he's torching [Marcus Peters]."

The Chief aren't doing much to dampen expectations. They've watched Mahomes develop from an air raid quarterback with unreal physical gifts into a legitimate starting QB in only a year. One member of the staff went as far to say that barring injury, Mahomes has the tools to be a top-10 NFL quarterback at season's end.

What makes him so special?

The staff raves about his arm strength, athleticism and, per one assistant coach, "that It factor where he just knows where to put the ball. It's all that stuff we saw at [Texas] Tech that made us fall in love with his game, but now he's a year smarter."

Mahomes' pre-draft scouting report was full of praise for his arm strength—which might be the best in the entire league—and his ability to create plays on the move with his athleticism. The biggest question mark was his ability to translate to a pro-style offense, but the Chiefs solved that issue by drafting and stashing Mahomes behind Alex Smith so he could learn and develop.

The Chiefs coaching personnel only amps up the Hahomes hype. Head coach Andy Reid is considered by many to be the best quarterback mentor in the game. And they got to be patient with Mahomes while he worked with former offensive coordinator/current Chicago Bears' head coach Matt Nagy all of last season. Mahomes' time with those coaches and behind Smith allowed him to catch up mentally after coming into the NFL with a lot to learn. Now he's ready to take off.

How good can the Chiefs be this year? A rival general manager thought they would "win between seven and nine games, depending on the defense." Other scouts and coaches told Bleacher Report the Chiefs will go "as far as Mahomes can take them".

The pressure is on the second-year quarterback to carry Kansas City farther than his predecessor could in multiple playoff berths.

For the hype to be real, Mahomes will have to deliver in January. but according to those who've seen him daily for the past year, he's ready.


Matt Miller covers the NFL and NFL draft for Bleacher Report.

[Bewbies]

Didn't most people buy in during the pre-season last year? You could see he was raw, but he flashed some elite shit too.

I know I'm biased here, but the only QB I'd even consider over Mahomes right now would be Wentz. And personally, I'd take Wentz at like 1G if Mahomes was 1A. He may bust, but the guy looks like should he work hard enough to be a next level player we have never, ever, had at QB in KC.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by oldman

I have 2 concerns. First, the kid is going to make some bonehead mistakes because of his confidence in his arm strength. After years of few turnovers under Smith, this is going to cause some fans to go absolutely batshit crazy. To that I'll just say Brett Favre probably fattened some shrinks wallets in his early days, too.
The second is a little bit more real. He's not some 6'5", 240 lb tank like Big Ben. I'm afraid he'll take unnecessary chances with his feet and take hits he shouldn't. While injuries happen in football, we don't need another RG3 on our hands. Plus we don't need more turnovers from fumbles.
While I'm all in on him being the starter, there's going to be some growing pains that we'll just have to accept.

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anyone who makes some claim that this kid (who has started in 1 meaningless game) should step in and have mistake free , veteran status NFL caliber play with no set-backs has some sort of agenda...as if we had any chance to go all the way next season if we didnt pull the trigger on the trade and making him the starter


its ridiculous, but people WILL bitch about the growing pains I guarantee it..especially the remnants of the alexsexually transmitted herpes

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

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anyone who makes some claim that this kid (who has started in 1 meaningless game) should step in and have mistake free , veteran status NFL caliber play with no set-backs has some sort of agenda...as if we had any chance to go all the way next season if we didnt pull the trigger on the trade and making him the starter


its ridiculous, but people WILL bitch about the growing pains I guarantee it..especially the remnants of the alexsexually transmitted herpes

I'm gonna preface this with the statement that I wasn't an anti Alex guy, and I'm not trying to pick an argument with you.

But I don't necessarily thinking feeling like Pat should step in and take off right away is a bad way to think though. He sat for a year, he should be more advanced than a normal rookie.

He doesn't have experience so it's gonna be some growing pains, but I don't expect there to be a lot.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

all of this


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anyone who makes some claim that this kid (who has started in 1 meaningless game) should step in and have mistake free , veteran status NFL caliber play with no set-backs has some sort of agenda...as if we had any chance to go all the way next season if we didnt pull the trigger on the trade and making him the starter


its ridiculous, but people WILL bitch about the growing pains I guarantee it..especially the remnants of the alexsexually transmitted herpes

The mother****ers who defended Alex tooth and nail, can't rip PMII at all. If they do they should be RR'd for said double standard.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm gonna preface this with the statement that I wasn't an anti Alex guy, and I'm not trying to pick an argument with you.

But I don't necessarily thinking feeling like Pat should step in and take off right away is a bad way to think though. He sat for a year, he should be more advanced than a normal rookie.

He doesn't have experience so it's gonna be some growing pains, but I don't expect there to be a lot.

Most fans are going to be okay with a guy taking risks if those risks are rewarded sometimes.

We've all seen what happens when you have a QB that won't take risks. I think he'll have a longer leash with most folks than we think.

If he has a mid-season run like Smiff did last year where he can't beat a cover 2 and we spend 6 weeks losing to the worst teams in the league he'll have trouble.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bewbies

Most fans are going to be okay with a guy taking risks if those risks are rewarded sometimes.

We've all seen what happens when you have a QB that won't take risks. I think he'll have a longer leash with most folks than we think.

If he has a mid-season run like Smiff did last year where he can't beat a cover 2 and we spend 6 weeks losing to the worst teams in the league he'll have trouble.

Hell, for 2018-2019, all I want is to be entertained. I'd be pretty bummed if we were worse than like 6-10, but if I see continued growth with a couple of jaw dropping plays a game out of Mahomes and the offense, I'll call that a success.

[big nasty kcnut]

buy the the hype the hype already been brought.

[Bewbies]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Hell, for 2018-2019, all I want is to be entertained. I'd be pretty bummed if we were worse than like 6-10, but if I see continued growth with a couple of jaw dropping plays a game out of Mahomes and the offense, I'll call that a success.

No shit.

I figure we'll see some games that blow our minds both good and bad. I'm super high on the kid though, I do think he's going to be the best QB KC has ever had.

[O.city]

Thing is, they've already had a wasted year of cheap drafted QB play. They've got 4 left.

Having a Qb on a cheap contract is a HUGE deal. It gets downplayed here too much IMO.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Hell, for 2018-2019, all I want is to be entertained. I'd be pretty bummed if we were worse than like 6-10, but if I see continued growth with a couple of jaw dropping plays a game out of Mahomes and the offense, I'll call that a success.

Are you expecting half the team to die in a plane crash or something?

10- 6 is the floor for this team along with a 3rd straight Division Title.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is, they've already had a wasted year of cheap drafted QB play. They've got 4 left.

Having a Qb on a cheap contract is a HUGE deal. It gets downplayed here too much IMO.

Yeah but Justin Houston is going to be gone when Pat gets paid. He alone is making QB money. Berry will be gone by then and Kelce probably will be too.

Just draft well and you’ll always be in it, especially with a top 10 QB.

[AssEaterChief]

Oh well this settles it!

I'm definitely picking him up as my #2 Fantasy football QB this year...

[Rain Man]

It would be impossible for me to be more excited about Patrick Mahomes II. If I became any more excited, my frontal lobe would explode.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Yeah but Justin Houston is going to be gone when Pat gets paid. He alone is making QB money. Berry will be gone by then and Kelce probably will be too.

Just draft well and you’ll always be in it, especially with a top 10 QB.

You can say "just draft well" as much as you want. Fact is, drafting well consistently is really ****ing hard to do and no one does it that well, that long.

You've gotta have $ to go get free agents and supplement guys around your QB.

Once he gets a big portion of the cap, that's tough.

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by oldman

I have 2 concerns.

I agree for the most part but I think he will use his arm dangerously not his legs. Smith was good at avoiding big hits sure if nothing else Mahomes learned Smith's survivalist skills. And I believe Mahomes is more likely to throw than take off running like smith anyways so if anything he is prob less likely to get his bell rung/inj running.