Football Where does Kirk Cousins land in 2018? - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 12-25-2017, 12:52 AM

Denver?

Kirk Cousins left FedEx Field on Sunday night wearing a blazing green, two-piece Christmas suit and matching tie, all of it decorated with gingerbread men, red tree ornaments and gold lights. The Washington quarterback looked like Santa’s only 6-foot-3 elf. But don’t let looks fool you. On an NFL field, he is a choirboy killer. And off it, when figuring out how to be the ruler of his own future, he is stone cold, too. If this was his last home game in D.C., and even his own coach seems to sense it was, he left a clear message — you’ll miss Captain Kirk when he’s gone.

Cousins led his injury-shattered team Sunday against the Denver Broncos, who boasted the top-ranked defense in the NFL in yardage allowed and the No. 2 defense against the pass. Cousins was without his best tight end, his best third-down back, his first-string running back, his most-touted wide receiver and three starting offensive linemen, including Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams.

Yet without seven of his top mates, Cousins passed for 299 yards, threw three scoring passes, never got sacked, had a 94.3 quarterback rating and led Washington to a 27-11 win. For the second straight week, Washington had the quality quarterback who made the difference, while the other guys had the kind of dismal signal caller — Blaine Gabbert for Arizona last week and Brock Osweiler for Denver — that Washington must hope it will not be saddled with in the near future.

If this was a Cousins audition for Denver — and in a sense every game for two years has been a Cousins audition for his next team when he finally gets his freedom — then he left the Broncos, and perhaps another half-dozen teams, drooling.

[Absent postseason incentive, Redskins’ passion still present in beating Broncos]

“We couldn’t get any pressure on him — quick passes. He was connecting. He was on fire. . . . Kirk is a great quarterback. I’ll say that every day of the week,” said Denver linebacker Von Miller, one of the greatest pass rushers who ever lived but a force who was almost erased from this game by Cousins’s quick release, play-calling, audibles, mobility and awareness of where and when pressure might arrive.

“I’m with everybody else [on Cousins]. . . . A lot of teams would kill to have a quarterback like that,” Miller added. Will Cousins end up in Denver, where Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway is team president? “Like I said, literally kill to have a quarterback like that. The list [of Cousins’s suitors] is long,” Miller said. “We’ll cross that bridge if we ever get to it.”

If Cousins wants to put together a free agent book of testimonials and stats, he can start with the Broncos’ defense that saw Cousins, with as little help as any passer will ever have, lead Washington to 386 yards of offense. Only the mighty New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles have gotten more off Denver this season — barely.

“He definitely can make some plays [improvising] and he can make all the throws. He’s a” baller, Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said after seeing Cousins scramble for a first down, go off schedule for a tiptoe-at-the-line-of-scrimmage 32-yard completion and hit Vernon Davis for a 31-yard scoring strike while rolling to his left. Not wanting to risk NFL “tampering” rules, Harris added, “But I can’t say anything about next year.”

[Best and worst moments from the Redskins’ win over the Broncos]

Everybody in the NFL knows what Cousins is — except the owner and team president of his own team. And a faction of this city’s fans, too. Familiarity really does breed contempt for quarterbacks. Their worst or unluckiest plays are scrutinized, but their statistics — even a staggering 47-straight-game résumé in Cousins’s case — can be twisted, misinterpreted or ignored.

This is who Cousins is. And this is the quarterback Washington is probably about to lose. In the last three years, out of all quarterbacks with 250 pass attempts, Cousins ranks third in the NFL in yards and fourth in quarterback rating.

In that time, Cousins is also fourth in adjusted net yards per attempt, an excellent all-around statistic that includes ratio of touchdown-to-interceptions, as well as frequency of being sacked. Ahead of him are only Tom Brady, 2016 MVP Matt Ryan and future Hall of Famer Drew Brees.

When you consider that Cousins is only 29, while several of the NFL’s best quarterbacks, such as Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Brees, Eli Manning and Brady, are near the end of their careers, his future in the league looks ever better.

“We set a standard here with the veteran guys we’re going to have next year . . . no matter what the circumstances,” Washington Coach Jay Gruden said. “As for Kirk, we’re going to coach him one more game here, and when the season is over we’ll deal with all that stuff.” Most NFL coaches lie either by nature or nurture. Gruden’s different. For Jay, “Coach him one more game here” is just sad.

This 3,935-yard season, with so many injuries around him, has only burnished Cousins’s reputation, driven up his price and forced him, from necessity, to expand his skills. Each year as a starter, he has grown, especially in reading coverages and feeling in control of a game. “In ’15 I kept waiting for it to click. When was it going to come together?” said Cousins, who shook Brady’s hand after a game and asked, “When did it start clicking for you?”

“It’s still clicking,” Brady answered. That’s what Cousins says he has discovered. In effect, Washington may have groomed him through a 24-22-1 record over three seasons so that he could finally become his best somewhere else.

“The accumulation of knowledge is a powerful thing, as [Hall of Fame coach] Bill Walsh said. Now I have a lot of games [of knowledge] in my bank account,” Cousins said.

Preach it. They’re listening in Denver, Jacksonville, New York, all over.

As Cousins was leaving for the night, he signed autographs for a half-dozen children, exchanging chitchat with kids who didn’t come up to his chest. The last in line, however, looked him in the eye and asked about his only interception: “Why did you throw that second-down pass in the end zone into double coverage?”

“You ought to join The Washington Post with a tough question like that,” Cousins said, missing only a beat. “I didn’t think about the back-side safety [rotating over]. I took too long. Good, hard question, young man.”

Cousins, who loves “Lord of the Rings,” likes straight shooters who look you in the eye and slightly corny rules for life where respect can trump money and where loyalty, the kind that shows up when the times get tough, can mean most of all.

n other words, Cousins tends to approve of things that don’t resemble the culture of casual disrespect and abrupt dismissal that has been the rule over the past couple of decades in Ashburn.

Some teams would kill to get a quarterback such as Cousins. Will Washington be one of them? Will it want him enough to keep him on a one-year franchise tag for more than $34 million, even though he would be totally free after 2018? Will it transition-tag him at more than $28 million, then be willing to match what might be an astronomical offer, far over $100 million, from another team?

How much is a quarterback worth who wears a Christmas suit with pictures of gingerbread men on it? In Cousins’s case, maybe more, in ways that have nothing to do with money, than Washington knows how to offer.

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staylor26 · 12-25-2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd argue that's exactly what he is...

Lol wut?

Cousins is solid/above average, but you’re seriously saying he’s as good as Brees?

RunKC · 12-25-2017, 10:18 AM

I don’t want Cousins in Denver bc he’s a good QB who has performed well with no real running game.

He’s like a better version of Derek Carr to me. Denver’s OL would kill him.

NJChiefsFan · 12-25-2017, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Cousins ain't no Brees and you can clearly see that in just the sheer athleticism and arm accuracy of Brees compared to Kirk.

I don't think that is really the point. He can be worse than brees and still improve as a winner with a better team.

Why Not? · 12-25-2017, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

What did Brees win before going to the Saints?

It's a team game and the Skins have been a mediocre at best team for a decade...

Sure but quarterback is the most important part of that team. Cousins has not stepped up and raised his team to the next level.

Chiefshrink · 12-25-2017, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Sure but quarterback is the most important part of that team. Cousins has not stepped up and raised his team to the next level.

Bewbies · 12-25-2017, 10:59 AM

Brees also has a perfect match with his head coach.

If you see Brees when you watch Cousins you are seriously, seriously, forgetting how great Brees is. His accuracy and willingness to attack a defense downfield is absurd.

BryanBusby · 12-25-2017, 11:07 AM

The Redskins will at least transition tag Kirk, so if he leaves it would need to be to a team that has enough cap space to give him enough year 1 cash that would make them pass.

I don't think Denver has enough. The Browns and Jets do.

Hydrae · 12-25-2017, 11:49 AM

If we start to see bodies pile up we will know who to look at:

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Originally Posted by Von Killer

“Like I said, literally kill to have a quarterback like that.”

Not like it would be his first.

AssEaterChief · 12-25-2017, 01:12 PM

I think he stays in Washington.

49ers don't need a QB any more.

Giants, Cardinals and Browns will probably draft one.

Jets still have Petty, Hackenberg and McCown to figure out.

Jags will keep rolling with Bortles because they make the playoffs.

That leaves Denver, but I think they're in a situation like the Jets at this point.

Randallflagg · 12-25-2017, 01:16 PM

I know that Dungver fans are (seemingly) salivating at the mouth for that dumbass Elway to bring him in - but If I had to place a bet today - right at this minute - I would say that Washington keeps him.

**wazu** · 12-25-2017, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

I'd rather them cripple their cap for cousins and waste their next few years than draft a potential franchise QB like Rosen

This all day. I want them to start following the game plan the Chiefs have used my entire life.

BigCatDaddy · 12-25-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

I think he stays in Washington.

49ers don't need a QB any more.

Giants, Cardinals and Browns will probably draft one.

Jets still have Petty, Hackenberg and McCown to figure out.

Jags will keep rolling with Bortles because they make the playoffs.

That leaves Denver, but I think they're in a situation like the Jets at this point.

Teams often times make the playoffs inspite of the QB
The Jags may jump to AFC front runner changing from Bortles o Cousins. I believe Bortles can be released with min cap issues after the season.

Reerun_KC · 12-25-2017, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Elway the whore will land him, you watch. I have a sinking feeling he'll land in Dungver.

Why? Coming out of college CP said he was junk.

NJChiefsFan · 12-25-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief

I think he stays in Washington.

49ers don't need a QB any more.

Giants, Cardinals and Browns will probably draft one.

Jets still have Petty, Hackenberg and McCown to figure out.

Jags will keep rolling with Bortles because they make the playoffs.

That leaves Denver, but I think they're in a situation like the Jets at this point.

Trust me the Jets have figured out Petty and Hackenberg. They are both terrible. Certainly McCown is only a short-term answer at best.

What if Bortles is the clear cut reason they lose in the playoffs?

Bills?

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-25-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell

Elway the whore will land him, you watch. I have a sinking feeling he'll land in Dungver.

^this

12-25-2017, 12:52 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3494454	Where does Kirk Cousins land in 2018? Denver? Kirk Cousins left FedEx Field on Sunday night wearing a blazing green, two-piece Christmas suit and matching tie, all of it decorated with gingerbread men, red tree ornaments and gold lights. The Washington quarterback looked like Santa’s only 6-foot-3 elf. But don’t let looks fool you. On an NFL field, he is a choirboy killer. And off it, when figuring out how to be the ruler of his own future, he is stone cold, too. If this was his last home game in D.C., and even his own coach seems to sense it was, he left a clear message — you’ll miss Captain Kirk when he’s gone. Cousins led his injury-shattered team Sunday against the Denver Broncos, who boasted the top-ranked defense in the NFL in yardage allowed and the No. 2 defense against the pass. Cousins was without his best tight end, his best third-down back, his first-string running back, his most-touted wide receiver and three starting offensive linemen, including Pro Bowl left tackle Trent Williams. Yet without seven of his top mates, Cousins passed for 299 yards, threw three scoring passes, never got sacked, had a 94.3 quarterback rating and led Washington to a 27-11 win. For the second straight week, Washington had the quality quarterback who made the difference, while the other guys had the kind of dismal signal caller — Blaine Gabbert for Arizona last week and Brock Osweiler for Denver — that Washington must hope it will not be saddled with in the near future. If this was a Cousins audition for Denver — and in a sense every game for two years has been a Cousins audition for his next team when he finally gets his freedom — then he left the Broncos, and perhaps another half-dozen teams, drooling. [Absent postseason incentive, Redskins’ passion still present in beating Broncos] “We couldn’t get any pressure on him — quick passes. He was connecting. He was on fire. . . . Kirk is a great quarterback. I’ll say that every day of the week,” said Denver linebacker Von Miller, one of the greatest pass rushers who ever lived but a force who was almost erased from this game by Cousins’s quick release, play-calling, audibles, mobility and awareness of where and when pressure might arrive. “I’m with everybody else [on Cousins]. . . . A lot of teams would kill to have a quarterback like that,” Miller added. Will Cousins end up in Denver, where Hall of Fame quarterback John Elway is team president? “Like I said, literally kill to have a quarterback like that. The list [of Cousins’s suitors] is long,” Miller said. “We’ll cross that bridge if we ever get to it.” If Cousins wants to put together a free agent book of testimonials and stats, he can start with the Broncos’ defense that saw Cousins, with as little help as any passer will ever have, lead Washington to 386 yards of offense. Only the mighty New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles have gotten more off Denver this season — barely. “He definitely can make some plays [improvising] and he can make all the throws. He’s a” baller, Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. said after seeing Cousins scramble for a first down, go off schedule for a tiptoe-at-the-line-of-scrimmage 32-yard completion and hit Vernon Davis for a 31-yard scoring strike while rolling to his left. Not wanting to risk NFL “tampering” rules, Harris added, “But I can’t say anything about next year.” [Best and worst moments from the Redskins’ win over the Broncos] Everybody in the NFL knows what Cousins is — except the owner and team president of his own team. And a faction of this city’s fans, too. Familiarity really does breed contempt for quarterbacks. Their worst or unluckiest plays are scrutinized, but their statistics — even a staggering 47-straight-game résumé in Cousins’s case — can be twisted, misinterpreted or ignored. This is who Cousins is. And this is the quarterback Washington is probably about to lose. In the last three years, out of all quarterbacks with 250 pass attempts, Cousins ranks third in the NFL in yards and fourth in quarterback rating. In that time, Cousins is also fourth in adjusted net yards per attempt, an excellent all-around statistic that includes ratio of touchdown-to-interceptions, as well as frequency of being sacked. Ahead of him are only Tom Brady, 2016 MVP Matt Ryan and future Hall of Famer Drew Brees. When you consider that Cousins is only 29, while several of the NFL’s best quarterbacks, such as Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer, Brees, Eli Manning and Brady, are near the end of their careers, his future in the league looks ever better. “We set a standard here with the veteran guys we’re going to have next year . . . no matter what the circumstances,” Washington Coach Jay Gruden said. “As for Kirk, we’re going to coach him one more game here, and when the season is over we’ll deal with all that stuff.” Most NFL coaches lie either by nature or nurture. Gruden’s different. For Jay, “Coach him one more game here” is just sad. This 3,935-yard season, with so many injuries around him, has only burnished Cousins’s reputation, driven up his price and forced him, from necessity, to expand his skills. Each year as a starter, he has grown, especially in reading coverages and feeling in control of a game. “In ’15 I kept waiting for it to click. When was it going to come together?” said Cousins, who shook Brady’s hand after a game and asked, “When did it start clicking for you?” “It’s still clicking,” Brady answered. That’s what Cousins says he has discovered. In effect, Washington may have groomed him through a 24-22-1 record over three seasons so that he could finally become his best somewhere else. “The accumulation of knowledge is a powerful thing, as [Hall of Fame coach] Bill Walsh said. Now I have a lot of games [of knowledge] in my bank account,” Cousins said. Preach it. They’re listening in Denver, Jacksonville, New York, all over. As Cousins was leaving for the night, he signed autographs for a half-dozen children, exchanging chitchat with kids who didn’t come up to his chest. The last in line, however, looked him in the eye and asked about his only interception: “Why did you throw that second-down pass in the end zone into double coverage?” “You ought to join The Washington Post with a tough question like that,” Cousins said, missing only a beat. “I didn’t think about the back-side safety [rotating over]. I took too long. Good, hard question, young man.” Cousins, who loves “Lord of the Rings,” likes straight shooters who look you in the eye and slightly corny rules for life where respect can trump money and where loyalty, the kind that shows up when the times get tough, can mean most of all. n other words, Cousins tends to approve of things that don’t resemble the culture of casual disrespect and abrupt dismissal that has been the rule over the past couple of decades in Ashburn. Some teams would kill to get a quarterback such as Cousins. Will Washington be one of them? Will it want him enough to keep him on a one-year franchise tag for more than $34 million, even though he would be totally free after 2018? Will it transition-tag him at more than $28 million, then be willing to match what might be an astronomical offer, far over $100 million, from another team? How much is a quarterback worth who wears a Christmas suit with pictures of gingerbread men on it? In Cousins’s case, maybe more, in ways that have nothing to do with money, than Washington knows how to offer. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.3ff3684d9b7d
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $1739611	I don’t want Cousins in Denver bc he’s a good QB who has performed well with no real running game. He’s like a better version of Derek Carr to me. Denver’s OL would kill him. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	Brees also has a perfect match with his head coach. If you see Brees when you watch Cousins you are seriously, seriously, forgetting how great Brees is. His accuracy and willingness to attack a defense downfield is absurd.
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3689900 VARSITY	The Redskins will at least transition tag Kirk, so if he leaves it would need to be to a team that has enough cap space to give him enough year 1 cash that would make them pass. I don't think Denver has enough. The Browns and Jets do.
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AssEaterChief Starter Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: SD Casino cash: $9992919	I think he stays in Washington. 49ers don't need a QB any more. Giants, Cardinals and Browns will probably draft one. Jets still have Petty, Hackenberg and McCown to figure out. Jags will keep rolling with Bortles because they make the playoffs. That leaves Denver, but I think they're in a situation like the Jets at this point.
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Randallflagg MVP Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $9987156	I know that Dungver fans are (seemingly) salivating at the mouth for that dumbass Elway to bring him in - but If I had to place a bet today - right at this minute - I would say that Washington keeps him.
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