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Old 10-15-2017, 02:18 PM  
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Jets get screwed on TD call. Overturned to a touchback.

League trying to set up that Chiefs-Pats matchup in the postseason, amirite BlackBob?

Ruled a TD on play



"Indisputable evidence" that it was a touchback.

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Old 10-16-2017, 07:04 AM   #31
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Holy shit, there is no way they found indisputable evidence to overturn.

And that is the key : Indisputable

They drove that term into our brains over and over when replay began, and now they don't even follow their own rules.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:07 AM   #32
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:08 AM   #33
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There is not 100% evidence of that part.
Did you see all the evidence? Did the replay official upstairs share with you all the angles he had?

The obvious:
1. It was a catch.
2. It was a fumble before he broke the line.

The disputed based on nfl replays:

To me, it looks like the receiver regains possession of the ball with their right arm after he hits the ground, which is too late. He does not regain possession in the air..

I don’t know how you can call this a disgusting call ? Or even terrible call? It was 50/50 based on what we could see. I don’t know what the video people were working with
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:12 AM   #34
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Did you see all the evidence? Did the replay official upstairs share with you all the angles he had?

The obvious:
1. It was a catch.
2. It was a fumble before he broke the line.

The disputed based on nfl replays:

To me, it looks like the receiver regains possession of the ball with their right arm after he hits the ground, which is too late. He does not regain possession in the air..

I don’t know how you can call this a disgusting call ? Or even terrible call? It was 50/50 based on what we could see. I don’t know what the video people were working with
That right there is why they should not have called what they called.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:14 AM   #35
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:18 AM   #36
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Yeah Carlos, you just killed your own argument.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:22 AM   #37
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Yeah Carlos, you just killed your own argument.
That’s ok, I was after the truth and found it - it was the corrrct call regardless. My argument was flawed. I can own up to that.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:28 AM   #38
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The play is over when he touches the pylon. I don't think he had control at that point.


I think they got the call correct.

I've disliked the rule about a fumble through the end zone being a touchback.

This. Exactly this.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:29 AM   #39
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This. Exactly this.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:41 AM   #40
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The fact that the runner has to “survive the ground” to regain possessions after losing it makes this irrefutable evidence -

It’s no longer 50/50 based on what I thought.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:44 AM   #41
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He has to have 2 feet in bounds or a knee or something to establish possession after he regains the ball... he hits the pylon first and is already considered out of bounds.
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Old 10-16-2017, 07:49 AM   #42
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And for everyone that thinks it’s on the defense to have to control a ball in the end zone, what happens during a safety when the offense fumbles and it goes out of bounds? Defense gets 2 points and the ball back. Defense getting the ball after a fumble on the other side seems fair to me. Offense has to have responsibility here. Had he crossed the line without fumbling - it was a td.
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Holy shit, there is no way they found indisputable evidence to overturn.

And that is the key : Indisputable

They drove that term into our brains over and over when replay began, and now they don't even follow their own rules.
This.

It just goes to show how inept the officiating system the NFL has. They get a ****ing do-over. They get a mulligan. And they still **** it up.

Come on man, simplify the rules. Train these ****nuts.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:15 AM   #44
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Unfortunately for the Jets, its the correct call. That rule though, should be changed to be ball to the offense at the spot of the fumble regardless of spot on field, but it never will be.

You know who I think actually got screwed? Harris.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...179037141.html

This is control by the offensive player with 2 feet down in the endzone. That's a TD. There is no "going to the ground," so that's not even a factor here.

Even Steelers fans saying it should have been a Chiefs TD if you read the Twitter comments.

EDIT: Even if Harris "didn't" catch that ball, which he did, how is that not pass interference on 28? The Chiefs got ****ed in a lot of ways by the officiating in this game aside from their own complete horseshit play.

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What a bullshit call. He got control back on the goal line. Pats getting another break becauee the nfl needs Brady one more season.
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