Chiefs PFF comments extensively on Terrance Mitchell - Page 3

Direckshun · 09-26-2017, 07:41 AM

This is great stuff. Props to the Locked On Chiefs podcast for hosting PFF. Between them, Chief in the North, Amateur Hour, the A Team podcast, and the Arrowhead Pride podcast, this is really the golden age for Chiefs podcasts.

Anyway, the dude from PFF made lots of interesting comments (the Chiefs play man coverage more than anyone in the NFL; the OL is "borderline top 10" but not enough to really take over games), but the most interesting to me is the comments he made about Mitchell.

Here they are, in their entirety:

Q: One guy that I was critical of early, and I'm starting to come around myself so you're not the only one that's making adjustments here, Terrance Mitchell is the second-most targeted corner according to PFF in this league, and he's given up the most yardage.

But, he still grades out very well. He doesn't give up a whole lot of rating against, so explain to us how, when you guys are doing that, do you take the fact that Marcus Peters is across from him into consideration when you're working grades, or how do you all look at his body of work as a whole?

PFF: Yeah obviously some cornerbacks just get targeted more. You can't really help it as a cornerback when you get targeted. You have to-- you will give up more completions. If someone like Richard Sherman was targeted on every single play of the game he'd end up giving up 150 yards at least in the game.

But at the same time, you have to look at the yards per target, and so [Mitchell] is still allowing fewer than 10 yards a target, which is fairly good at the cornerback position. He has given up over 300 yards, but on 33 targets, so over 10 targets a game is a lot of targets.

And his completion percentage against is only 51.5% so that's, you know, when you're around the 50 mark at the cornerback position, that's a-- an elite number is sub-50, so he's right at that. The fact that he gets targeted a bunch, he has two picks, he has three pass breakups, so he's been good in that area. He does have a handful of penalties, but that's gonna happen in the NFL when you play man coverage.

So I think what we've seen from him so far has been encouraging, and you need someone across from Marcus Peters who's going to be able to hold up with a high volume of targets because teams are wising up to the fact that maybe targeting Marcus Peters whatever it was, 118 times his rookie year, is not a smart decision.

All In · 09-26-2017, 09:38 PM

Ok Im new on here but i really think y'all need to give Gaines a break. He came back from his acl tear last year and was thrown back out there not healthy. That could mess with any players head when you know your not ready but have no choice. Do you really think Nelson will be any better when he comes back? Lol It should be interesting.

Direckshun · 09-26-2017, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by All In

Ok Im new on here but i really think y'all need to give Gaines a break. He came back from his acl tear last year and was thrown back out there not healthy. That could mess with any players head when you know your not ready but have no choice. Do you really think Nelson will be any better when he comes back? Lol It should be interesting.

Welcome to Chiefs Planet.

You're wrong and probably an awful person.

Cornstock · 09-26-2017, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Welcome to Chiefs Planet.

You're wrong and probably an awful person.

Yes, most likely.

Take your lumps, n00b!

Welcome to CP!

Best22 · 09-26-2017, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by All In

Ok Im new on here but i really think y'all need to give Gaines a break. He came back from his acl tear last year and was thrown back out there not healthy. That could mess with any players head when you know your not ready but have no choice. Do you really think Nelson will be any better when he comes back? Lol It should be interesting.

He looked healthy to me in 2016

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09-26-2017, 11:12 PM

I'll take Mitchell over the current and old Sean Smith every single day.

All In · 09-27-2017, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22

He looked healthy to me in 2016

No he was not. This is the NFL and he was a rookie. Cheap labor.

09-26-2017, 07:41 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4173447	PFF comments extensively on Terrance Mitchell This is great stuff. Props to the Locked On Chiefs podcast for hosting PFF. Between them, Chief in the North, Amateur Hour, the A Team podcast, and the Arrowhead Pride podcast, this is really the golden age for Chiefs podcasts. Anyway, the dude from PFF made lots of interesting comments (the Chiefs play man coverage more than anyone in the NFL; the OL is "borderline top 10" but not enough to really take over games), but the most interesting to me is the comments he made about Mitchell. Here they are, in their entirety: Q: One guy that I was critical of early, and I'm starting to come around myself so you're not the only one that's making adjustments here, Terrance Mitchell is the second-most targeted corner according to PFF in this league, and he's given up the most yardage. But, he still grades out very well. He doesn't give up a whole lot of rating against, so explain to us how, when you guys are doing that, do you take the fact that Marcus Peters is across from him into consideration when you're working grades, or how do you all look at his body of work as a whole? PFF: Yeah obviously some cornerbacks just get targeted more. You can't really help it as a cornerback when you get targeted. You have to-- you will give up more completions. If someone like Richard Sherman was targeted on every single play of the game he'd end up giving up 150 yards at least in the game. But at the same time, you have to look at the yards per target, and so [Mitchell] is still allowing fewer than 10 yards a target, which is fairly good at the cornerback position. He has given up over 300 yards, but on 33 targets, so over 10 targets a game is a lot of targets. And his completion percentage against is only 51.5% so that's, you know, when you're around the 50 mark at the cornerback position, that's a-- an elite number is sub-50, so he's right at that. The fact that he gets targeted a bunch, he has two picks, he has three pass breakups, so he's been good in that area. He does have a handful of penalties, but that's gonna happen in the NFL when you play man coverage. So I think what we've seen from him so far has been encouraging, and you need someone across from Marcus Peters who's going to be able to hold up with a high volume of targets because teams are wising up to the fact that maybe targeting Marcus Peters whatever it was, 118 times his rookie year, is not a smart decision.
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09-26-2017, 09:38 PM	#31
All In Starter Join Date: Sep 2017 Casino cash: $10000400	Ok Im new on here but i really think y'all need to give Gaines a break. He came back from his acl tear last year and was thrown back out there not healthy. That could mess with any players head when you know your not ready but have no choice. Do you really think Nelson will be any better when he comes back? Lol It should be interesting.
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09-26-2017, 11:12 PM	#35
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	I'll take Mitchell over the current and old Sean Smith every single day.
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