Football 'United We Stand' rally for Colin Kaepernick in NYC - Page 3

T-post Tom · 08-08-2017, 01:26 PM

Surprised this didn't happen sooner.......

We're a couple weeks into training camp and Colin Kaepernick remains a free agent, and it's unclear if that will change in the coming weeks and months.
One explanation for Kaepernick's current situation: He hasn't been very good in recent seasons. Another take is that Kaepernick is being blackballed for his stance on social-justice issues. That's why there will be a rally at NFL headquarters in Manhattan on Aug. 23 to support the embattled quarterback, according to a tweet from filmmaker Spike Lee.

This comes three months after Kevin Livingston, the president of 100 Suits for 100 Men -- one of the organizations Kaepernick worked with earlier this year -- organized a "stand up" outside the NFL's New York City headquarters as a show of solidarity with the quarterback.
"He stood up for us," Livingston told ESPN's Michael Rothstein at the time. "It's only right that he took our issues in our communities and brought it to a national level and sacrificed salary and being ostracized by the NFL. It was only right that we stand up for him. I started this, literally, when he came to my office -- I was moved. I work with parolees. People usually want to ostracize this particular population. Me working with him on the front lines and him coming to my office, this is not the first time I've worked with him. So I thought it was only right that I stand up for him."

"We're not protesting," Livingston continued. "This is not anti-NFL. This is not going against the police. What we're doing exactly is we're showing solidarity to the league on behalf of Colin Kaepernick. This is nothing planned by him. This is all me.
"But I have to say, Colin Kaepernick really moved me when he did that for our community. And so ... the reason why I chose [NFL headquarters] is the league needs to see that Colin is being supported. And that we're buying consumers and that our dollars matter and I don't think it's fair the way he's being treated by the league. I just want to make that very clear."

Kaepernick, who played for the 49ers from 2011-2016, began last season on the bench behind Blaine Gabbert, but was reinserted into the starting lineup in mid-October. When it was over, he had started 11 games and completed 59.2 percent of his passes with 16 touchdowns and four interceptions. He also rushed 69 times for 468 yards and two scores. But according to Football Outsiders' metrics, Kaepernick ranked 30th among all quarterbacks, just ahead of Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler and Jared Goff.

The Seahawks showed interest in Kaepernick in May, and the Ravens appeared to close to signing him earlier this month. Nothing materialized and Kaepernick is still looking for his next opportunity.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...ernick-in-nyc/

Does Kaepernick want starter money? http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/s...-rumors-060217

**wazu** · 08-08-2017, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I cant get over the obvious irony of the name of the rally. You just cant make that shit up.

Really is amazing. I don't feel one bit bad for Kaepernick, but do think he's a good QB and if we didn't have Mahomes I'd want the Chiefs to go get him.

**Baby Lee** · 08-08-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

This country is down right stupid.

Red Dawg is downright ambiguous.

stevieray · 08-08-2017, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

This country is down right stupid.

^^^^^

2bikemike · 08-08-2017, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Exactly... it's a big distraction with no potential for gain. Why would an owner do that?

It's the negative version of the Tebow situation, basically.

Talent trumps all in today's sports world, if he was good enough all that negativity would be ignored. Problem with Kap is he wasn't good enough to spout shit and get away with it.

CoMoChief · 08-08-2017, 04:36 PM

Much of the NFL fanbase that pays for season tickets, parking etc are 30+ yr old white conservatives who are sick and tired of the BLM anti-cop/anti-American false narrative that's been shoved down their throat by the liberal msm, ESPN, and to the NFL as well.

NFL owners aren't stupid. They've seen fan backlash, twitter and FB feeds showing overwhelmingly distaste for Kaep's actions and disrespect for this country and those who've served it, all so he can pretend to support the false lying narrative that cops are out hunting down blacks like it's open season. One thing that pisses off most white conservatives is disrespect for the police and armed forces that protect the flag and allow you to have the right to protest. Add that on top of the fact that whites are just simply tired of being called racists at every turn. Can't turn on the TV without talking about it, the narratvie is shoved in your face on a daily basis.

Bottom line is Kaep doesn't bring enough to the table that would outweigh the amount of negative press and distraction he would ultimately create, the fan backlash and boycott by fans ($$$). The msm has to keep running w/ this story to inject the idea that the NFL is being racist and black balling Kaep because of he's standing up for black people, and that each day Kaep is left un-signed, is that much more racist than the previous day, and if he's unsigned after the following day, then the NFL be even more racist. That's how ESPN spins it.

Owners want to make money and they don't want bad press. I don't know if NFL is purposely black balling Kaep from being signed by a QB-needy team. Apparantly he's had offers but he's declined because he thinks he's worth more than just league min, he wants a starting job/money etc. So aside from his anti-cop bs dog n pony show, he also thinks he's better than what he's worth, and is demanding more money. Furthermore, his yappy annoying obnoxious mtv muslim gf is calling team owners and HOF'ers racist. Not a smart move on camp Kaep's part. But he should keep listening to her. I'm sure she fills his head up w/ all kinds of ridiculous shit every day. Every since he started dating her, he's started w/ this bullshit.

He made his bed....now he gets to sleep in it.

**Easy 6** · 08-08-2017, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV

I would take him on my team. He would give you guy's a better chance than Alex this year too.

**wazu** · 08-08-2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Career passer ratings:

Alex Smith: 85.3
Colin Kaepernick: 88.9

stevieray · 08-08-2017, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Career passer ratings:

Alex Smith: playoffs
Colin Kaepernick: bench

**Easy 6** · 08-08-2017, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Career passer ratings:

Alex Smith: 85.3
Colin Kaepernick: 88.9

He also took the Niners to the big game, and I dont care about that either

Without Harbaugh custom tailoring an offense around him, the guy sucks monkey nuts IMO... and I held that opinion long before the whole kneeling fiasco

**wazu** · 08-08-2017, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

Really? Playoffs is an edge for Smith? Which QB has led their team to a Super Bowl? Which one just lost to a team that didn't score even one TD?

**wazu** · 08-08-2017, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

He also took the Niners to the big game, and I dont care about that either

Without Harbaugh custom tailoring an offense around him, the guy sucks monkey nuts IMO... and I held that opinion long before the whole kneeling fiasco

Kaepernick 2016 passer rating: 90.7

stevieray · 08-08-2017, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Really? Playoffs is an edge for Smith? Which QB has led their team to a Super Bowl? Which one just lost to a team that didn't score even one TD?

Ya, and Kap watched it on his couch. Besides, that's LAST year and water under the bridge.

WhiteWhale · 08-08-2017, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnV

He never wore a Castro shirt to a presser in Miami. So many stories have been twisted to make him look worse.

It may not have been in Miami, but he sure as **** wore the shirt to a presser.

And in doing so roasted any chance of playing in Miami with their huge population of cubans who fled Castro's oppressive shit-hole. Going on rants about oppression while wearing one of the modern world's most well known oppressors is a surefire way to make yourself look like a complete ****ing idiot.

Nobody should be surprised the guy isn't wanted in Miami.

Mama Hip Rockets · 08-08-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Talent trumps all in today's sports world, if he was good enough all that negativity would be ignored. Problem with Kap is he wasn't good enough to spout shit and get away with it.

He's certainly not a superstar, but he's definitely good enough to play in the league. I mean, Jay Cutler just got ten million dollars. Do people really believe that Jay Cutler is worth $10 million but Colin Kaepernick isn't even good enough to be second- or third-string somewhere?

WhiteWhale · 08-08-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Kaepernick 2016 passer rating: 90.7

4-20

That's his record over his last 24 starts.

Also, he voided his own contract. He walked away from his job.

08-08-2017, 01:26 PM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4227293	'United We Stand' rally for Colin Kaepernick in NYC *Surprised this didn't happen sooner.......* We're a couple weeks into training camp and Colin Kaepernick remains a free agent, and it's unclear if that will change in the coming weeks and months. One explanation for Kaepernick's current situation: He hasn't been very good in recent seasons. Another take is that Kaepernick is being blackballed for his stance on social-justice issues. That's why there will be a rally at NFL headquarters in Manhattan on Aug. 23 to support the embattled quarterback, according to a tweet from filmmaker Spike Lee. This comes three months after Kevin Livingston, the president of 100 Suits for 100 Men -- one of the organizations Kaepernick worked with earlier this year -- organized a "stand up" outside the NFL's New York City headquarters as a show of solidarity with the quarterback. "He stood up for us," Livingston told ESPN's Michael Rothstein at the time. "It's only right that he took our issues in our communities and brought it to a national level and sacrificed salary and being ostracized by the NFL. It was only right that we stand up for him. I started this, literally, when he came to my office -- I was moved. I work with parolees. People usually want to ostracize this particular population. Me working with him on the front lines and him coming to my office, this is not the first time I've worked with him. So I thought it was only right that I stand up for him." "We're not protesting," Livingston continued. "This is not anti-NFL. This is not going against the police. What we're doing exactly is we're showing solidarity to the league on behalf of Colin Kaepernick. This is nothing planned by him. This is all me. "But I have to say, Colin Kaepernick really moved me when he did that for our community. And so ... the reason why I chose [NFL headquarters] is the league needs to see that Colin is being supported. And that we're buying consumers and that our dollars matter and I don't think it's fair the way he's being treated by the league. I just want to make that very clear." Kaepernick, who played for the 49ers from 2011-2016, began last season on the bench behind Blaine Gabbert, but was reinserted into the starting lineup in mid-October. When it was over, he had started 11 games and completed 59.2 percent of his passes with 16 touchdowns and four interceptions. He also rushed 69 times for 468 yards and two scores. But according to Football Outsiders' metrics, Kaepernick ranked 30th among all quarterbacks, just ahead of Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brock Osweiler and Jared Goff. The Seahawks showed interest in Kaepernick in May, and the Ravens appeared to close to signing him earlier this month. Nothing materialized and Kaepernick is still looking for his next opportunity. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...ernick-in-nyc/ Does Kaepernick want starter money? http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/s...-rumors-060217
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7972254	Much of the NFL fanbase that pays for season tickets, parking etc are 30+ yr old white conservatives who are sick and tired of the BLM anti-cop/anti-American false narrative that's been shoved down their throat by the liberal msm, ESPN, and to the NFL as well. NFL owners aren't stupid. They've seen fan backlash, twitter and FB feeds showing overwhelmingly distaste for Kaep's actions and disrespect for this country and those who've served it, all so he can pretend to support the false lying narrative that cops are out hunting down blacks like it's open season. One thing that pisses off most white conservatives is disrespect for the police and armed forces that protect the flag and allow you to have the right to protest. Add that on top of the fact that whites are just simply tired of being called racists at every turn. Can't turn on the TV without talking about it, the narratvie is shoved in your face on a daily basis. Bottom line is Kaep doesn't bring enough to the table that would outweigh the amount of negative press and distraction he would ultimately create, the fan backlash and boycott by fans ($$$). The msm has to keep running w/ this story to inject the idea that the NFL is being racist and black balling Kaep because of he's standing up for black people, and that each day Kaep is left un-signed, is that much more racist than the previous day, and if he's unsigned after the following day, then the NFL be even more racist. That's how ESPN spins it. Owners want to make money and they don't want bad press. I don't know if NFL is purposely black balling Kaep from being signed by a QB-needy team. Apparantly he's had offers but he's declined because he thinks he's worth more than just league min, he wants a starting job/money etc. So aside from his anti-cop bs dog n pony show, he also thinks he's better than what he's worth, and is demanding more money. Furthermore, his yappy annoying obnoxious mtv muslim gf is calling team owners and HOF'ers racist. Not a smart move on camp Kaep's part. But he should keep listening to her. I'm sure she fills his head up w/ all kinds of ridiculous shit every day. Every since he started dating her, he's started w/ this bullshit. He made his bed....now he gets to sleep in it. __________________
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