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Old 06-30-2016, 04:36 AM  
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:24 AM   #31
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Denver's defense can win games for them, but honestly if it comes down to offense vs. offense it could be ugly.
It was ugly offensively last year... my expectations are set right, below .500 finish would shock me. I figure they are a 9 win team at this point, we'll see what happens with QB. I'm not expecting a playoff push, it's a 'tweener' year.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:27 AM   #32
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:31 AM   #33
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It was ugly offensively last year... my expectations are set right, below .500 finish would shock me. I figure they are a 9 win team at this point, we'll see what happens with QB. I'm not expecting a playoff push, it's a 'tweener' year.
It depends. Please tell me you're starting Shofield (?) this year?
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:37 AM   #34
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Beat me to it by less than a min!
I would have agreed with this statement two years ago. We'll have to see if Houston can get and stay healthy and how he looks post injury. A 100% Houston is better than Miller at both pass rushing and stopping the run. Mack is an absolute beast against the run, and while not quite the pass rusher Houston or Miller are now, Mack's ability to destroy OT's with power, and run by many of them, is something neither Houston or Miller can match so Mack may pass them both from a pass rushing standpoint over the next couple years.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:41 AM   #35
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You and BlackTop should go jerk each other off...
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:42 AM   #36
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It depends. Please tell me you're starting Shofield (?) this year?
Dunno, I don't get fixated on a lot of that stuff until camps start... and we close to preseason.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:42 AM   #37
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:44 AM   #38
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:47 AM   #40
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Mack, Houston and Miller are literally 1a, 1b, and 1c. You can't go wrong choosing either one. Neither one has any legitimate weakness. They're all versatile and would be All-Pros at multiple defensive positions in multiple schemes.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:50 AM   #41
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:13 AM   #42
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Sounds like typical Raider talk. We're gonna win the division before the season. Below .500 at seasons end....
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Right now Von Miller has the upper hand after what he just did, just like Houston had the upper hand the year before after 23 sacks.

It's close though. No doubt Von/Houston/Mack/Watt are the best pass rushers in the NFL.

Chiefs have the upper hand here. Fisher has done a decent job vs Von/Mack and Schwartz proved he could block them too.
If I was a Bronco fan I'd worry about my tackles, especially Stephenson. That guy is weak. Ninkovich walked him back to the QB with 1 arm last year. Imagine what Houston/Mack is gonna do to him.
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Care to wager a sig bet on who finishes with a better record?
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Raiders fall apart every year.

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That's your last 4 games. I bet the Raiders go 1-3 in that stretch.
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