Chiefs ****Official Chiefs Free Agents thread**** - Page 3

**BigRedChief** · 04:23 PM

Our Free Agents:

S Eric Berry
LB Derrick Johnson
CB Sean Smith
DT Jaye Howard
LB Tamba Hali
QB Chase Daniel
S Tyvon Branch
DE Mike DeVito
G Jeff Allen
S Husain Abdullah
WR Jason Avant
LB Frank Zombo
OT Donald Stephenson
CB Jamell Fleming
LB Dezman Moses

We supposedly have $31 million in cap space.

Chiefs Free Agent tracker
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agen...s-city-chiefs/

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Done deals:

Kelce signs 5 year extension, $46 million with $20.6 guarantee money.

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Rumors:

Howard contract discussions are fluid:
http://nfltraderumors.co/141573-2/

Berry having various discussion with the Chiefs:
http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/ar...13067_20228983

Sandy Vagina · 01-18-2016, 12:26 PM

^ what you thinking there, Mr. Laz?

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2016, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Howard is gone and after Saturday's no-show, I really don't give a shit.

I know it's irrational and stupid, but that unit absolutely had to get pressure up the middle and it flat out didn't come to play.

The dude's gonna get 9-10 million in AAV and it's pretty obvious that he's going to the highest bidder. In a cap league, he's a guy you let walk. Truthfully, Sean Smith at 29 yrs old is one of those guys as well.

So **** Poe then too, since he didn't show up?

quick passes to Edelman killed our pass rush

**BossChief** · 01-18-2016, 12:28 PM

Right now, we have 67m dedicated to next years offense and only 41m on defense.

Should equal out to be around 75m on each side.

No reason not to keep 2/3 of Howard, Berry and Smith.

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

^ what you thinking there, Mr. Laz?

Howard is not Hudson and he is at a premiere position in the NFL

He can play NT or DE.

He's better at NT imo.

I think if our defense was better coached he would even have more impact.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-18-2016, 12:31 PM

The DL didn't lose the game for us.

The game plan and lack of adjustments did.

Giving Edelman a free release all day will never, ever work in your favor.

**RealSNR** · 01-18-2016, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

**** Allen and Stephenson they aren't that good to fret about if they want big bucks. We have to focus on keeping this D together and to go with that depending on who's there I'd throw a 1st round pick at it too. Draft to our strength so it remains a strength.

Okay, but you're not allowed to bitch about continuity on the offensive line this training camp

Sandy Vagina · 01-18-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Howard is not Hudson and he is at a premiere position in the NFL

He can play NT or DE.

He's better at NT imo.

I think if our defense was better coached he would even have more impact.

True that. Would love for him to stay, but if he really insists on being at the top of the food-chain? eh... I don't know about that. My guess is KC really tries hard to keep him, and at the cost of waving g'bye to Sean Smith and Daniel.

He will stay if he gives KC any kind of break... but if he's all about making that top 5 DL money? best of luck to him, and there's the door. With Bailey and Poe.. and potentially Devito and some young talent already there... Howard is not a must-keep.

I say this as someone who most highly praises the guys in the trenches... but it is what it is.

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2016, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The DL didn't lose the game for us.

The game plan and lack of adjustments did.

Giving Edelman a free release all day will never, ever work in your favor.

The Patriots ran the ball 6 or 7 times(not counting QB scramble)

Quick passing game all day long neutralized our Dline and pass rush.

You don't cover Edelman, you lose.

don't want to hear about hindsight either because this was also said before the game. Anyone paying attention knew what the patriots were going to try to do. We let them.

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

True that. Would love for him to stay, but if he really insists on being at the top of the food-chain? eh... I don't know about that. My guess is KC really tries hard to keep him, and at the cost of waving g'bye to Sean Smith and Daniel.

He will stay if he gives KC any kind of break... but if he's all about making that top 5 DL money? best of luck to him, and there's the door. With Bailey and Poe.. and potentially Devito and some young talent already there... Howard is not a must-keep.

I say this as someone who most highly praises the guys in the trenches... but it is what it is.

I have no idea how much he's asking. Any player can price themselves out of a job.

Let's not get it twisted though and start talking like he's not worth having.

Sandy Vagina · 01-18-2016, 12:39 PM

So, why not play press man in Nickel with a single high S most of the day? Would that not have been a wise approach?

thabear04 · 01-18-2016, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

http://www.chiefsdigest.com/chiefs-s...g-free-agents/

On my phone so can't paste. Sounds like Howard and Smith want to be here.

Chiefs’ season officially over, now have decisions to make on looming free agents.

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — The Chiefs have a long offseason to ponder Saturday’s 27-20 loss to the New England Patriots.

A game of what ifs are sure to ensue, the visualizing of missed plays, but the matters of playing football will take a back seat to the business side in less than two months when the league’s calendar year kicks off March 9.

And the Chiefs have a big decision on looming unrestricted free agents, including strong safety Eric Berry, defensive end Jaye Howard, cornerback Sean Smith, left guard Jeff Allen and safety Husain Abdullah, among others.

The list certainly isn’t short of high-profile contributors, all of whom wouldn’t mind staying put if a deal can get done.

“This is family,” Berry said. “At the same time, we will sit down and talk about it when we talk about it, but right now I’m just thankful for my teammates, my coaches and everybody that has something to do with me being back on the field this year. This is something special. Like I said, we’ll talk about it.”

The 27-year-old Berry, who earned a base salary of $5.1 million in 2015, is arguably the Chiefs’ biggest decision after he returned from Hodgkin lymphoma to be named a first-team All-Pro and was voted to the Pro Bowl.

But Howard certainly made large contributions to the defense, appearing in 16 games with 14 starts, totaling 36 tackles and career-high 5½ sacks.

“I want to come back,” Howard said. “These are my brothers I’m going to war with — (Dontari) Poe, (Allen) Bailey and Nick Williams, (Mike) DeVito. I want to be a part of this. This is just the beginning right now that we started. We can make a run for years, especially with our D-line group, so hopefully it works out.”

The 27-year-old Howard, who played the past regular season earning a base salary of $660,000, said he hopes something can get done before the start of free agency.

But he also indicated the need to take care of loved ones and hopes his production is enough to get a lucrative deal accomplished.

“Ultimately and truthfully, I got to take care of my family at this point,” Howard said. “I want to be paid like one of the top D-linemen in this league, and I felt like I deserve that. I played well enough to get that and hopefully we can get something done. I’d love to be back here.”

The 28-year-old Smith, who originally joined the Chiefs in 2013 on a three-year deal, earned a base salary of $4.25 million in 2015.

A cornerback with Smith’s skills likely will command a high price on the open market, but he wants to return where he is comfortable.

“This is home,” Smith said. “I love being here.”

The 26-year-old Allen came into his own the past season, proving his versatility to play guard or tackle.

Allen earned a base salary of $973,249 the past season, and he knows any return to Kansas City requires negotiations.

“I would like to be back here,” Allen said, “but honestly it takes two sides. I’ll leave it at that.”

Allen added the primary reason he wants to return surrounds the team atmosphere.

“It’s a family, it’s truly a family,” he said. “In my four years here, I’ve gained a lot of relationships with a lot of different people, not just my teammates and staff, everybody — trainers, coaches, guys in the maintenance department.

“It’s like a family watching you grow. I’ve done a lot of growing up since I’ve been here. I love the community. I have a family now and we love the community, so it’s definitely a place we would like to call home.”

The 30-year-old Abdullah, who earned a base salary of $745,000 the past season, echoed Allen on the environment as a primary reason for his desire to remain with the Chiefs.

“As long as they want me to be here, I want to be here,” Abdullah said. “It’s a great place, a great organization top to bottom. It’s a great group of guys.

“You hate going into this time of the year because you know from playing on the field, no team is the same. But I wish we could have the same team, go to battle with this same team next year because I have faith this team could win it all.”

Mr. Laz · 01-18-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Okay, but you're not allowed to bitch about continuity on the offensive line this training camp

Stephenson doesn't provide continuity because you can never tell which Stephenson is going to show up.

Allen either really, because you don't know when he is going to get injured again.

If we keep Allen then we better have a backup ready to go.

Sandy Vagina · 01-18-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

I have no idea how much he's asking. Any player can price themselves out of a job.

Let's not get it twisted though and start talking like he's not worth having.

yeah, right on.

Bewbies · 01-18-2016, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

He takes too many plays off. Goes for the interception instead of breaking up the pass. He showboats on simple plays. Gets himself suspended for selfish reasons.

1 of 4 ain't bad. Give yourself a pat on the back.

There's a reason this defense got a lot better when he returned, and there's a reason everyone chose to throw at Peters.

thabear04 · 01-18-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ct

Good list for the whole league

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...fl-free-agents

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