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Old 05-19-2015, 02:32 AM  
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KC Chiefs Drafting Alex Smith's replacement "soon" ?
I swear to god this guy is an idiot

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Kansas City Chiefs RUMORS: Reid Likely Drafting Alex Smith's Replacement Soon?


Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith may never be the most physically gifted player on an NFL field, but he's got enough grit, moxie and veteran savvy to produce enough points to keep the Chiefs in the game on pretty much any given Sunday.


While Smith has enjoyed something of a career resurgence under Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, the successes the two men have enjoyed together may actually serve to shorten Smith's tenure in the end.

"Expectations have risen since Smith and Kansas City had a huge turnaround to reach the postseason in 2013, Reid's first season there, and Smith's big contract mandates he'll be around for a few more years," writes Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports. "But watching back-up Chase Daniel scampering around and making big plays in a Week 17 win over San Diego, one that eliminated the Chargers from the playoffs, had my wheels turning at least a bit and I wouldn't be shocked to see this franchise looking at quarterbacks in the higher rounds a year from now."

The 31-year-old Smith is entering the second year of a four-year, $68 million contract extension. His dead cap hit for next season is $40.4 million and $24.9 million in 2016, meaning Smith will remain with the team for at least the next two years.

Beyond that, his cap hits for the final two years of the deal are $16.9 million and $20.6 million, but cutting him would cause the Chiefs to incur dead cap penalties of just $7.2 million in 2017 and $3.6 million in 2018.
In 2014, his second season in Kansas City, Smith threw for 3,265 yards on 303 completions for 18 touchdowns, six interceptions and a 93.4 quarterback rating.

Smith is dependable and smart and if the Chiefs boast a strong enough running game with Jamaal Charles, De'Anthony Thomas and Knile Davis, he can certainly manage Kansas City into the playoffs.

Winning a postseason game seems a questionable proposition though, for a quarterback who struggles to push the ball downfield and managed to go all of 2014 without connecting with a single one of his wide receivers for a touchdown.

With the addition of Jeremy Maclin in free agency and the drafting of Chris Conley - and when considering simple percentages - it's highly unlikely Smith will manage to let another full NFL season pass without tossing a touchdown to a wideout.

Still, Smith is and will always be limited as a signal-caller - even if he brings the Chiefs to the postseason again after just missing out in 2014, if he and Reid are unable to bring fans in Kansas City a playoff victory, consistently strong regular season efforts are going to start seeming hollow and altogether empty.

This isn't to suggest that Smith and the Chiefs can't make their way into the postseason and emerge victorious from a contest or two, but this is a quarterback and offense driven NFL and Smith simply will never be able to contend with the league's elite like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Andrew Luck.

It may not be a first-round pick and it likely won't come next season, but Reid and the Chiefs will be forced to look for another long-term answer at quarterback at some point because Smith, as strong as he's been since joining Kansas City, is not a Super Bowl-winning signal-caller and Daniels, despite the strong showing to end last season, doesn't seem to be the answer either.
So it wont be in the 2016 draft but it will happen soon you guys!!!
Just have some patience....LOL


YAY?
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:58 AM   #31
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Nobody is saying Murray will complete for time this year. We're talking a year or two from now.
Murray should be able to show the ability to be the #2 this year.....making Daniel expendable.
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Old 05-19-2015, 10:59 AM   #32
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Based on my ability to see that Murray is the best QB prospect Reid has had since McNabb and a perfect fit for his offense. There's a reason Dungy and Gruden were drooling over this guy. Gruden and Reid have similar philosophies so I have no doubt Reid feels the same way about him.
So based on nothing.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:03 AM   #33
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So based on nothing.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:05 AM   #34
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Another stellar argument.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:08 AM   #35
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Another stellar argument.
What's your argument? All I keep seeing are 3-5 word posts saying absolutely nothing. Have you watched tape on Murray? Are you aware of Gruden and Dungy's comments about him? Did you determine before the draft process that he was a perfect fit for Reid's offense as I did? You don't have a ****ing clue.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:15 AM   #36
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Nobody is saying Murray will complete for time this year. We're talking a year or two from now.
Fair enough but that's a long time in NFL years.

If Murray really case be an elite QB then waiting that long is strange.


You really think that Murray is Aaron Rodger-esque? Give him 3/4 years on the bench and he's ready to go.

Seems like a real stretch to me.
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:18 AM   #37
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Murray should be able to show the ability to be the #2 this year.....making Daniel expendable.
IF Reid really does have plans for Murray then he should absolutely become the #2 at some point this year. No excuse for that not to happen.

Preferable trade Daniel for something when that happens.
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Fair enough but that's a long time in NFL years.

If Murray really case be an elite QB then waiting that long is strange.


You really think that Murray is Aaron Rodger-esque? Give him 3/4 years on the bench and he's ready to go.

Seems like a real stretch to me.
This is part of the reason I have high hopes. I think one of the biggest issues with the QB position in today's NFL is they're thrown to the wolves far too early. Sitting back and learning the offense and getting mentored by Reid/Alex/Chase is a great thing Murray. It will only make him better and more prepared for his first real action.
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The 31-year-old Smith is entering the second year of a four-year, $68 million contract extension. His dead cap hit for next season is $40.4 million and $24.9 million in 2016, meaning Smith will remain with the team for at least the next two years.

Why does God hate the Chiefs so much.
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Murray being in the number 3 spot kinda still makes sense for now. At #2 he gets back-up reps with the starting offense. At #3 he gets a lot more reps with the scrub offense working against the starting defense.
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great Murry will become our #1 just in time for his next contract

no cheap starter for us, 50 million for Murray because he's now our starter



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What's your argument? All I keep seeing are 3-5 word posts saying absolutely nothing. Have you watched tape on Murray? Are you aware of Gruden and Dungy's comments about him? Did you determine before the draft process that he was a perfect fit for Reid's offense as I did? You don't have a ****ing clue.
Who gives a shit what Dungy and Gruden say? That means absolutely nothing. Beyond that, all you're spouting is homer opinion, along with your dubious expert film study. No meaningful evidence of any kind.
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What's your argument? All I keep seeing are 3-5 word posts saying absolutely nothing. Have you watched tape on Murray? Are you aware of Gruden and Dungy's comments about him? Did you determine before the draft process that he was a perfect fit for Reid's offense as I did? You don't have a ****ing clue.
uh, nothing personal, but some random internet guy's determination of how amazing a QB is isn't exactly an opinion that 100% of people are going to consider a worthy opinion. they're like assholes, everyone has one.

as for the experts, feh. gruden never met at QB he didn't love and dungy knows about as much about what makes a great nfl QB as he does about raising boys that don't commit suicide. peyton manning was his offensive coordinator for all intents and purposes, and his tampa bay offenses were abysmal (those defenses, though, were stellar).

I seem to recall 'experts' (as in, draft experts and the like) that told us ricky stanzi was tom brady version 2.0. hell, jaws (ron jaworski) told us that THE CHIEFS FINALLY HAVE THEIR FRANCHISE QB in reference to tyler thigpen.

grain of salt.
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Who gives a shit what Dungy and Gruden say? That means absolutely nothing. Beyond that, all you're spouting is homer opinion, along with your dubious expert film study. No meaningful evidence of any kind.
Dungy and Gruden >>>> some ****ing moron on CP that hasn't watched Murray and is just trying to bring some negativity into an optimistic outlook

Gruden and Reid are WCO guys from the same tree. If you don't think what Gruden thinks about Murray is a good indicator than you're ****ing clueless like I said.
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uh, nothing personal, but some random internet guy's determination of how amazing a QB is isn't exactly an opinion that 100% of people are going to consider a worthy opinion. they're like assholes, everyone has one.

as for the experts, feh. gruden never met at QB he didn't love and dungy knows about as much about what makes a great nfl QB as he does about raising boys that don't commit suicide. peyton manning was his offensive coordinator for all intents and purposes, and his tampa bay offenses were abysmal (those defenses, though, were stellar).

I seem to recall 'experts' (as in, draft experts and the like) that told us ricky stanzi was tom brady version 2.0. hell, jaws (ron jaworski) told us that THE CHIEFS FINALLY HAVE THEIR FRANCHISE QB in reference to tyler thigpen.

grain of salt.
Gruden was pretty lukewarm towards Tyler Bray on his QB Camp show
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