Chiefs WalterFootball grades the Chiefs Free Agency LOL - Page 3

**Bufkin** · 03-15-2015, 12:10 AM

Chiefs sign WR Jeremy Maclin (5 years, $55M; $22.5M guaranteed): C- Grade
This move is getting a ton of hype, but it's all unjustified. This is a bad signing - and that goes for both Jeremy Maclin and the Chiefs.

Paying $11 million per year and $22.5 million in guarantees to Maclin is insane, considering his dubious injury history. Maclin finally stayed healthy last year and thrived as a consequence, but he has two bum knees and can't be counted on to have many more healthy seasons. It's also worth noting that Maclin's 2014 stats were inflated because of the number of snaps he played in Chip Kelly's offense. I'm not saying Maclin is a mediocre player, or anything; on the contrary, if he can stay healthy, he's very effective. He's just not the stellar No. 1 receiver that his 1,318 receiving yards say he is, and that's without even factoring in his health.

As for Maclin, you have to wonder what he's possibly thinking. I can't completely bash him because he's reuniting with his former head coach, but he's effectively sabotaging his career by choosing to play with Alex Smith. Maclin should've consulted Greg Jennings, Mike Wallace, James Jones, etc. about how it feels to take more money to play in a worse offense. All three receivers are regretting their decisions.

Chiefs sign G Paul Fanaika (3 years, $8.1 million): D Grade
Quite frankly, this is not a good move whatsoever. The Chiefs traded for Ben Grubbs earlier today - scroll down for that grade - but they wanted to add another guard. That's fine, but they could've done much better than Paul Fanaika. The former Arizona Cardinal was a dreadful blocker this past season in all regards. He doesn't seem like an upgrade, so it's puzzling that the Chiefs would sign him for nearly $3 million per year, especially when there were so many equal or better guards available, per the NFL Free Agent Rankings list.

Chiefs re-sign S Ron Parker (5 years, $30 million): D Grade
Uhh... did the Chiefs mean to re-sign Ron Parker to a 5-year, $3 million deal? Because that would've made more sense. Parker is barely a starter; he would be better served as a backup. He was decent enough in coverage this past season, but was an abomination in run support. In fact, aside from the injuries, Parker was the primary reason why Kansas City struggled to stop the rush in 2014.

Making matters worse, Parker has been a starter just one season in his 4-year career, so it's not like he even has a proven track record prior to his pedestrian 2014 campaign. I just don't get this signing, but I won't give the Chiefs a Millen grade because other teams were inexplicably interested in Parker's services as well.

Chiefs extend G Ben Grubbs (4 years, $24M; $8M guaranteed): B- Grade
I'm not as big a fan of this extension as I was of the initial trade. Giving away a fifth-round pick for a temporary upgrade at one of the guard positions made a lot of sense, but an extension with $8 million guaranteed isn't as good of a move.

This isn't a terrible extension, or anything, as it won't set Kansas City back very much if Grubbs flops. However, there's a chance that he will continue to regress. He's been a strong player throughout his career, but his play dropped off last year. He just turned 31, so that could continue. He should still be a temporary upgrade, but it's conceivable that Kansas City may want to cut him Year 2 into this deal.

milkman · 03-15-2015, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

Chiefs sign WR Jeremy Maclin (5 years, $55M; $22.5M guaranteed): C- Grade
This move is getting a ton of hype, but it's all unjustified. This is a bad signing - and that goes for both Jeremy Maclin and the Chiefs.

Paying $11 million per year and $22.5 million in guarantees to Maclin is insane, considering his dubious injury history. Maclin finally stayed healthy last year and thrived as a consequence, but he has two bum knees and can't be counted on to have many more healthy seasons. It's also worth noting that Maclin's 2014 stats were inflated because of the number of snaps he played in Chip Kelly's offense. I'm not saying Maclin is a mediocre player, or anything; on the contrary, if he can stay healthy, he's very effective. He's just not the stellar No. 1 receiver that his 1,318 receiving yards say he is, and that's without even factoring in his health.

As for Maclin, you have to wonder what he's possibly thinking. I can't completely bash him because he's reuniting with his former head coach, but he's effectively sabotaging his career by choosing to play with Alex Smith. Maclin should've consulted Greg Jennings, Mike Wallace, James Jones, etc. about how it feels to take more money to play in a worse offense. All three receivers are regretting their decisions.

First, I have to ask, what hype?
Outside of KC, no one is talking about this.

I don't think anyone, including Walter here, is looking at the fit.
They just see Maclin, call him a vertical threat, and see Smith, who isn't a vertical passer, and dismiss the potential impact this could really have.

If the "experts" really broke it down, they could see how this works for the Chiefs, though I would have to agree that Maclin himself isn't doing himself any favors.

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Chiefs sign G Paul Fanaika (3 years, $8.1 million): D Grade
Quite frankly, this is not a good move whatsoever. The Chiefs traded for Ben Grubbs earlier today - scroll down for that grade - but they wanted to add another guard. That's fine, but they could've done much better than Paul Fanaika. The former Arizona Cardinal was a dreadful blocker this past season in all regards. He doesn't seem like an upgrade, so it's puzzling that the Chiefs would sign him for nearly $3 million per year, especially when there were so many equal or better guards available, per the NFL Free Agent Rankings list.

Pretty much agree here, though I think that he's just another stop gap, but he's better than the garbage we trotted out at guard last season.

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Chiefs re-sign S Ron Parker (5 years, $30 million): D Grade
Uhh... did the Chiefs mean to re-sign Ron Parker to a 5-year, $3 million deal? Because that would've made more sense. Parker is barely a starter; he would be better served as a backup. He was decent enough in coverage this past season, but was an abomination in run support. In fact, aside from the injuries, Parker was the primary reason why Kansas City struggled to stop the rush in 2014.

Making matters worse, Parker has been a starter just one season in his 4-year career, so it's not like he even has a proven track record prior to his pedestrian 2014 campaign. I just don't get this signing, but I won't give the Chiefs a Millen grade because other teams were inexplicably interested in Parker's services as well.

At the end of the day, the Chiefs had to pay what the market demanded in a weak safety market, but this is just a 2 year commitment, really.

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Chiefs extend G Ben Grubbs (4 years, $24M; $8M guaranteed): B- Grade
I'm not as big a fan of this extension as I was of the initial trade. Giving away a fifth-round pick for a temporary upgrade at one of the guard positions made a lot of sense, but an extension with $8 million guaranteed isn't as good of a move.

This isn't a terrible extension, or anything, as it won't set Kansas City back very much if Grubbs flops. However, there's a chance that he will continue to regress. He's been a strong player throughout his career, but his play dropped off last year. He just turned 31, so that could continue. He should still be a temporary upgrade, but it's conceivable that Kansas City may want to cut him Year 2 into this deal.

I don't know, seems like a petty detail to grade this on the extension.

In the broad view, it seems like this guy is just looking at the big numbers without considering the structures of these contracts.

From what I can see, none of them really are more than 2 year commitments, at the most.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 03-15-2015, 06:07 AM

The guy is a moron !

Anyway , Parkers deal is for $25 mill with another $5 mill tied to playoffs and performance incentives.

**Bufkin** · 03-15-2015, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

The guy is a moron !

Anyway , Parkers deal is for $25 mill with another $5 mill tied to playoffs and performance incentives.

So it's for $30 mill...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-15-2015, 06:23 AM

I did not realize I had a brother in the world.

**notorious** · 03-15-2015, 06:25 AM

He could be right, he could be wrong.

I think that results are going to fall into the gray area.

Maclin's numbers will decline, but his deep threat is going to open up the underneath game, which will improve the entire team.

Marcellus · 03-15-2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

So it's for $30 mill...

If he reaches the incentives which would validate the contract. Moron.

This cracks me up as well.

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I just don't get this signing, but I won't give the Chiefs a Millen grade because other teams were inexplicably interested in Parker's services as well.

On other words Walterfootball just doesn't understand market value.

**Rausch** · 03-15-2015, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

DaneMcCloudfootball.com thinks that Walterfootball.com has sucked for nearly 15 years

Dane would be right.

I'm the biggest Dorsey basher on here but in this very short sample of the offseason he's doing a B to B- job.

We gained more than we lost and Maclin has been solid in Phat Andy's WCO.

That probowl G may be a stop-gap but if he plays at a pro bowl level for two years and allows us to add another piece to this line each year it's perfect. If we're going to have a young and inexperienced C this year we need some competent G play around him...

**Rausch** · 03-15-2015, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

On other words Walterfootball just doesn't understand market value.

I don't think his true value matches his market value.

I don't like the signing.

I'm not complaining though, so far, this is the only thing Dorsey's done that I haven't loved...

**Bufkin** · 03-15-2015, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

On other words Walterfootball just doesn't understand market value.

I don't think that was his point sunshine...

The market value for Mike Wallace was 60 million dollars in 2013. The market value for Dunta Robinson was 57 million in 2011. The market value for Ron Parker in 2015 was 30 million dollars. In each instance, you have a dumb GM overpaying due to that market value.

**Rausch** · 03-15-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

I don't think that was his point sunshine...

The market value for Mike Wallace was 60 million dollars in 2013. The market value for Dunta Robinson was 57 million in 2011. The market value for Ron Parker in 2015 was 30 million dollars. In each instance, you have a dumb GM overpaying due to that market value.

Exactly.

Market value is what one or more teams are willing to pay a player.

If Houston were a free agent there's probably a team out there willing to make him the highest paid defensive player in the league...

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-15-2015, 07:03 AM

No way he sees all of that $30m. He's 28. He probably won't be here after this coming season and next.

Marcellus · 03-15-2015, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bufkin

I don't think that was his point sunshine...

The market value for Mike Wallace was 60 million dollars in 2013. The market value for Dunta Robinson was 57 million in 2011. The market value for Ron Parker in 2015 was 30 million dollars. In each instance, you have a dumb GM overpaying due to that market value.

There are dumb GMs who overpay for players certainly, I am sure almost every one have done that at some point.

There are also dumb people who just look at the advertised number and assume that's the real value of the contract rather than realizing its closer to a 2 year $8MM deal if performance isn't up to par.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-15-2015, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

There are also dumb people who just look at the advertised number and assume that's the real value of the contract rather than realizing its closer to a 2 year $8MM deal if performance isn't up to par.

LOL

Red Dawg · 03-15-2015, 07:17 AM

This report is stupid. I guess we should have done nothing and just rolled out the same team as last year. All that matters is whether the team roster got better.

It definitely did so they can

. Last year they dogged Pats for Edleman and Laffelle and looked like idiots.

redshirt32 · 03-15-2015, 07:20 AM

Its easy to forecast failure in the NFL, since 30 teams fail each year anyone can open a web page and forecast failure.

Because if you do not make it to the super bowl = fail so your going to be right on at least 30 teams each year.

That is more than enough to make it seem you know what your talking about same as shit spewed here easy to do.

03-15-2015, 12:10 AM
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