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Old 02-17-2015, 08:12 PM  
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The Franchise Tag: Ability to "steal" players?
I still follow Nick Wright, former 610 Sports talking head who has now moved to the Houston market.

He just posted the following series of tweets, advocating that the Texans (or any team, really) "steal" Dez Bryant from the Cowboys, should he get the franchise tag. He indicates the cost is 2-First Round picks:
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My questions to you all:

- Is this a thing that has been done?
- What's the policy?
- Are we in danger of losing Houston should he receive the tag?
- Would you pull the trigger on Dez, or another player, for 2-firsts?
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:26 PM   #31
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It's not like they'd be the first team to pay two superstars.

Christ, we had one of the worst passing offenses in the league and have the 10th highest paid QB and 4th highest paid WR.

They don't have a single player making more than $9M a season, and their four highest paid players are locked up until 2017, 2018 and 2019.
Sadly thougj, their qb covers up alot as that gm hasn't been very good.

It would make sense for them though, but they just traded a first rounder for Richardson. They need talent influx one way or another
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:33 PM   #32
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Again why would they risk not using the exclusive tag. Jurruh isn't going to risk his stud getting away.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:34 PM   #33
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Sadly thougj, their qb covers up alot as that gm hasn't been very good.

It would make sense for them though, but they just traded a first rounder for Richardson. They need talent influx one way or another
Grigson has made one bad mistake, and that's the Richardson deal.

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He's picked up some talent in three years. Much more in his first two years than Dorsey in his first two years.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:35 PM   #34
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McGlockton was a step below the franchise tag. We had to give up a second round pick if I remember right.
I believe he was a franchise player and would cost the Chiefs one or two firsts to sign him, but some how Carl and McGlockton convinced the Radiers to redesignate him a restricted free agent the day before the draft so the Chiefs only had to send a second to Oakland.

And I had forgotten he died about four years ago.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:51 PM   #35
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Again why would they risk not using the exclusive tag. Jurruh isn't going to risk his stud getting away.
He's not. We know it. Just makes for interesting conversation.
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Old 02-17-2015, 09:55 PM   #36
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I believe he was a franchise player and would cost the Chiefs one or two firsts to sign him, but some how Carl and McGlockton convinced the Radiers to redesignate him a restricted free agent the day before the draft so the Chiefs only had to send a second to Oakland.

And I had forgotten he died about four years ago.
I went back and found a Chiefs yearbook and you were right it was a restricted free agent deal.

The Raiders got a comp pick out of the deal and that player Leon Bender ended up dying.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:05 PM   #37
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Seems like the chiefs got chester mcglockton by making him an ofer and oakland declined to match it. I don't remember what they had to give.
The Poison pill. Not sure really how that works, but it makes it hard for the team to claim the player back.
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Old 02-17-2015, 10:07 PM   #38
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Grigson has made one bad mistake, and that's the Richardson deal.

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Werner
Thornton
Moncrief

He's picked up some talent in three years. Much more in his first two years than Dorsey in his first two years.
Werner hasn't been very good yet and his free agent signings have been mediocre at best. Look at their ol.

He's hit on some good picks sure.

I also belive 4 or your players listed are what they are because of the first one listed, but that's just me.
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Old 02-18-2015, 03:32 AM   #39
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Poison clauses i think are forbidden now. But i think you can negotiate for less. Like a 1st and 2nd.
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Old 02-18-2015, 06:58 AM   #40
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Jones will never let him leave Dallas... and that's the bottom line on this..
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:05 AM   #41
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Indy is a 4 win team without Luck. They need lots of help. They should be figuring out how to get more draft picks.
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Jones will never let him leave Dallas... and that's the bottom line on this..
Agreed. I was just curious about the process as a whole.
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:10 AM   #43
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Werner hasn't been very good yet and his free agent signings have been mediocre at best. Look at their ol.

He's hit on some good picks sure.

I also belive 4 or your players listed are what they are because of the first one listed, but that's just me.
That's what I was thinking. Without Luck that squad is pure dog crap.
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Old 02-18-2015, 07:12 AM   #44
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:07 AM   #45
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If I remember correctly the franchising team also gets the opportunity to match the agreed to contract so the team trying to sign the player has to structure the contract in a way that the franchising team can't match. So basically front load the contract so much that it would put the other team over the cap.
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