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View Poll Results: What's the offenses biggest weakness
Alex Smith 29 23.02%
The offensive line 67 53.17%
The wide receivers 13 10.32%
Play calling 11 8.73%
Something else 6 4.76%
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:05 AM  
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What's the biggest problem with the Chiefs offense?

I know there has been a lot of talk about this topic and I just want to see what the majority of the people here think the biggest issue is that causes the offense to underperform.
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:51 AM   #31
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:58 AM   #32
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All of the above.

If I had to rank them though.

1. Offensive Line
2. QB
3. Playcalling
4. WRs
I might flip 2 and 3 but this is pretty much it
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:02 PM   #33
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Brees missed the same pass yesterday
I'm sorry. I guess I was a little to rough on Smith. My apologies.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:04 PM   #34
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we've got 99 problems and alex smith being a bitch (who won't throw more than a three yard out, who is his primary read) is definitely one of them.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:07 PM   #35
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KC RB's had 91 yards on 22 attempts against Oakland weeks ago. Over 4 YPC

KC's RB's had 35 yards on 10 carries against the Broncos. Bad game all around by the offense.

Against Arizona charles had 91 yards on 10 carries... the team managed 100 yards on 13 carries.

KC lost all three games, and I'd say the run game was ineffective in one of those games. It simply wasn't utilized enough.

In most games, the run game works because Jamaal is a bad ass. Of course the passing game NEEDS to be more effective, but unless we get a new OL, new WR's, and a different QB (which won't happen this season) it's probably best to utilize the strengths of the team Reid has rather than the one he wishes he had. I suppose this was a personnel question, but I took it differently because changing personnel is not an option.
The box score stats you listed barely tell a mere portion of the story.

Lets take a closer look:

KC @ Oak: 20-89; 4.4YPC

DEN @ KC: 10-35; 3.5YPC

KC @ AZ: (Minus the 63 Yard run outlier) 10-32; 3.2 YPC

OAK @ KC: 21-63; 3YPC

Notice a trend?

That's about 3.5 YPC over the course of a 4 game stretch.

That's a pattern. And the pattern says that our running game has not been effective. And simply bashing your head into a brickwall hoping that the brickwall breaks isn't a great idea.

Bottom line is that the Chiefs have to throw the ball in order for their ground game to become a effective again.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:13 PM   #36
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So why don't we throw the ball down field more often?

because...

1. Oline can't protect lone enough
2. WRs can't get open down field consistently or quickly enough
3. QB doesn't try
4. coach doesn't call down field passes enough
5. All of the above
Systematic problem that starts from the O-line and trickles down.

If the O-line can pass protect for a second or two longer, giving the WR's more time to get open, giving Smith more time to throw and alters his internal clock so he feels comfortable actually sitting in the pocket, allowing the coaches to call more plays designed to go down field.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:15 PM   #37
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Systematic problem that starts from the O-line and trickles down.

If the O-line can pass protect for a second or two longer, giving the WR's more time to get open, giving Smith more time to throw and alters his internal clock so he feels comfortable actually sitting in the pocket, allowing the coaches to call more plays designed to go down field.
Which is exactly what we saw last Sunday.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:28 PM   #38
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All of the above.

If I had to rank them though.

1. Offensive Line
2. QB
3. Playcalling
4. WRs
Here's the winner.
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Old 12-16-2014, 12:39 PM   #40
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I just want to know how guys like Emmanuel Sanders, Odell Beckham and every Eagle seems to be running wide ass open.
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I just want to know how guys like Emmanuel Sanders, Odell Beckham and every Eagle seems to be running wide ass open.
A multitude of reasons. Scheme, talent, QB.....
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I think without a doubt the O-line is. Having said that, the Chiefs offense isn't all that bad. When we have a decent 3rd down conversion rate, it's pretty good.

Reason why we're struggling for a playoff spot is the D is incredibly unlucky. We're last in the league in take-aways. We only have 4 INTs the whole year. 4! Had we caught a decent number of the balls DBs had in their hands, we'd have 2-3 more wins.
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It's a kind of weird situation where you can't blame just one, but all have some fault. I think a good passing attack requires all of these areas to be strong, and it's a multiplying effect, not an adding one. Unless they're all strong, the result won't be strong, and if they're all humdrum the result is what we've got.

I'm become far less inclined to blame the receivers as time goes on, because I don't see them even getting looked at before the checkdowns.
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I just want to know how guys like Emmanuel Sanders, Odell Beckham and every Eagle seems to be running wide ass open.
We seem to have guys run "wide ass open" too. You see theirs more than ours because their QB finds them.

Our QB is rarely allotted the time to find them, and when he is, he's too nervous to stand in and deliver.
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I think without a doubt the O-line is. Having said that, the Chiefs offense isn't all that bad. When we have a decent 3rd down conversion rate, it's pretty good.

Reason why we're struggling for a playoff spot is the D is incredibly unlucky. We're last in the league in take-aways. We only have 4 INTs the whole year. 4! Had we caught a decent number of the balls DBs had in their hands, we'd have 2-3 more wins.


Seriously?
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