Looking ahead to Sunday Night

[Mile High Mania]

What can the last game at KC tell us ... if anything? First glance, KC let off the throttle - enjoyed a 1H lead thanks to the KO return and Manning/Decker were insanely in synch, especially after halftime.

Should be a cold one, as the high looks like 37 with a low of 29 - so at kickoff it's likely freezing. We'll see, the high on Saturday is 57 and on Monday it's 46, but it doesn't look like it will be wet, so that's good.

The game @ KC a year ago had much warmer temp on 12/1 with 55 degrees at kickoff, so it will be about 20 degrees colder for SNF. Simply being cold and loud is ok, not ideal - but ok.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1312010kan.htm

Last year, the Chiefs were up 21-14 at the half and down 35-21 with 7 minutes left before they scored, making it a 35-28 victory.

KC scored a TD on a 108 yd KO return (Davis), had more rushing yards as a team, won the TO battle and ended with a slight advantage on TOP. And while intercepting Manning twice - they couldn't stop him, and with the KC offense not being set up to win a passing battle, it hurt KC. Although, Smith had nearly 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Eric Decker went nuts (4 TDs total) as he caught 3 in the 2nd half, with Manning throwing for 5 TDs and over 400 yds. Montee Ball actually had a good day. Decker and Ball our gone, replaced by Sanders and CJ Anderson this year.

Travis Kelce is a big add for KC in this one and we'll see what they can do with Avant. Denver's defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down and TEs kill them.

I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens.

Manning is only 2 TDs and 243 yards off his record pace in 2013 through 11 games, but the ground game is different now ... and while the defense should be better, they haven't played like it lately consistently enough.

Denver needs Julius back in the lineup.. interestingly enough, he didn't play last year in KC either. Julius returning to the lineup is key for me if Denver can win. If Julius isn't playing, Denver loses... I just think he means that much in a game like this on the road.

Say what you will about reverse mojo, but I'm not expecting a Denver win here... not after the way they've played over the last month.

Obviously, I'm fine being wrong here. Let's have some fun this week.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by TEX

Yep, very critical to come away with 7 and sustain drives. Honestly, IF the Chiefs ground game is in gear like it was against New England or Seattle, we have a VERY good shot at winning. If not, we don't have much of one.

KC, SEA and the Rams are the only teams to eclipse 100 yards rushing vs Denver. Tre Mason carried it 29 times for 113, Lynch carried it 26 times (Wilson accounted for 40 yds that killed them) and Davis carried it 22 times (Smith accounted for 40 yds, very critical runs).

Denver's line was consistently beat on with gradual successes by those 3 RBs, with the QBs in two games making it count on a few plays - extending drives.

That's where the 3rd down conversion issues come into play. Tighten it up in the middle, keep Alex honest and don't let the TE beat ya. Three big keys for the defense on Sunday @ Arrowhead.

[Wallcrawler]

Barring another injury, we will have Jamaal available this time around. Had he been available in the first meeting, who knows how much different the game would have been.

Our kicker seems to have grasped the concept of his job, something he struggled with in the first meeting and screwed us out of 3 points after a ten plus minute possession. We need TDs and not FGs, but if it comes down to needing 3, he seems to be able to get that for us now.


This game is going to fall squarely on Andy Reid's shoulders. He MUST keep the offense on the football field. Period. If this defense plays 60 snaps against Manning, we're looking at giving up about 40 points.

Huge errors in judgement in the first meeting by Reid in not keeping the offense out on the field and going for those 4th and short situations in Denver territory, when Manning had already driven 80, and 90 yard drives for touchdowns. When that is happening, there is no field position battle. You keep your offense out there and keep Manning on the bench.

If he comes out with anything remotely resembling that first half against Oakland, then its over before it gets going. Passes behind the line of scrimmage for losses of 10, and 12 yards, and then no attempts to recoup the lost yardage. Passes not travelling more than 3-5 yards through the air, cant happen.

If we're passing, spread that shit out and get Alex into the shotgun. He does much better in that situation. Don't bother with putting him under center on third down and fifteen, because he'll have a defender on him by the time he takes his second step backward.

Ron Parker has a massive bullseye on him this week. He will get tested, early and often. If he's not up to it, this defense isn't getting off the field until points are scored.

[Mile High Mania]

I'm sure there is some 'reverse mojo' going on here by everyone involved, but I think this may also be the first time in a long while that fans of both teams genuinely think the other team is going to win.

That means things are picking up and the teams are playing good football. Home field is supposed to be a great neutralizer, so we'll see how that works out.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I would just simply like to see more 3 and outs.

Sorry to keep doing this, but I have to.

Denver's opponents have been held to 3 or fewer plays without scoring on 39.1% of their drives.

League average is 30.1%.

KC is at 28.7%.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Sorry to keep doing this, but I have to.

Denver's opponents have been held to 3 or fewer plays without scoring on 39.1% of their drives.

League average is 30.1%.

KC is at 28.7%.

Dunno why you want to battle this one... despite what the stats show, we give up too many 3rd down conversions when it matters. We can move on now.

[KCUnited]

I haven't watch a whole lot of Denver this year. What does potentially losing Talib and/or Webster this week do to their/your secondary?

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Dunno why you want to battle this one... despite what the stats show, we give up too many 3rd down conversions when it matters. We can move on now.

Because it's a pet peeve of mine when people look at things without context. Every team gives up too many 3rd down conversions when it matters. Complaining about a team that happens to be one of the best in the league at it makes you look silly.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I haven't watch a whole lot of Denver this year. What does potentially losing Talib and/or Webster this week do to their/your secondary?

Nothing good, but ... having a great secondary isn't actually a necessity really this week. The depth should be all right if those 2 are missing.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Because it's a pet peeve of mine when people look at things without context. Every team gives up too many 3rd down conversions when it matters. Complaining about a team that happens to be one of the best in the league at it makes you look silly.

That's where we'll agree to disagree... I don't view them as one of the best at it, not if you're counting critical points in a game.

[Iowanian]

Enough with the pleasantries, it's Donk Week.

The Chiefs are going to slap Denver so hard sunday night that Curtis Bowen's mother is going to compose a 50 page manifesto decrying the beating, and will seek compensation to ease the pain and embarrassment of the beating.

The Chiefs are going to slap the Broncos so hard Sunday night, that the team will wake up on a hotel floor being drug by the hair by Ray Rice, and be glad it's not Kansas City.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What can the last game at KC tell us ... if anything? First glance, KC let off the throttle - enjoyed a 1H lead thanks to the KO return and Manning/Decker were insanely in synch, especially after halftime.

Should be a cold one, as the high looks like 37 with a low of 29 - so at kickoff it's likely freezing. We'll see, the high on Saturday is 57 and on Monday it's 46, but it doesn't look like it will be wet, so that's good.

The game @ KC a year ago had much warmer temp on 12/1 with 55 degrees at kickoff, so it will be about 20 degrees colder for SNF. Simply being cold and loud is ok, not ideal - but ok.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...1312010kan.htm

Last year, the Chiefs were up 21-14 at the half and down 35-21 with 7 minutes left before they scored, making it a 35-28 victory.

KC scored a TD on a 108 yd KO return (Davis), had more rushing yards as a team, won the TO battle and ended with a slight advantage on TOP. And while intercepting Manning twice - they couldn't stop him, and with the KC offense not being set up to win a passing battle, it hurt KC. Although, Smith had nearly 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Eric Decker went nuts (4 TDs total) as he caught 3 in the 2nd half, with Manning throwing for 5 TDs and over 400 yds. Montee Ball actually had a good day. Decker and Ball our gone, replaced by Sanders and CJ Anderson this year.

Travis Kelce is a big add for KC in this one and we'll see what they can do with Avant. Denver's defense can't stop anyone on 3rd down and TEs kill them.

I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens.

Manning is only 2 TDs and 243 yards off his record pace in 2013 through 11 games, but the ground game is different now ... and while the defense should be better, they haven't played like it lately consistently enough.

Denver needs Julius back in the lineup.. interestingly enough, he didn't play last year in KC either. Julius returning to the lineup is key for me if Denver can win. If Julius isn't playing, Denver loses... I just think he means that much in a game like this on the road.

Say what you will about reverse mojo, but I'm not expecting a Denver win here... not after the way they've played over the last month.

Obviously, I'm fine being wrong here. Let's have some fun this week.

**** off, dipshit

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

**** off, dipshit

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That's where we'll agree to disagree... I don't view them as one of the best at it, not if you're counting critical points in a game.

Ok, I guess I don't know how to quantify critical points in a game. Which teams do you think are the best at it?

[Bugeater]

I've seen this movie before, it will be close most of the game and the Chiefs will probably even have a lead at some point. Then in the 4th quarter Chiefs D will start falling apart, then throw in some bullshit penalties and big plays and the Donks start pulling away and win by double digits.

[TEX]

I don't see a combined point total over 60 points again - more like 20-17 (KC), but we'll see what happens.

BULL SHIT you TOOL. Predicting a KC win so you can save your TWO FACED Mile High Mule Tool ass if it happens. If not, you can twist the knife and talk shit about a Denver win at KC again. You've set it up so you "win" either way. Typical poser - move dude. You've cornered the market...