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Old 09-21-2014, 08:30 PM  
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Should the NFL overtime rules be changed?

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The winner of a classic football game should never be determined by pure, dumb luck.
Unlike the Super Bowl, the only difference Sunday between the Broncos and Seattle was a flip of the coin. “We felt like we were the better team,” Broncos defensive tackle Terrance Knighton said.

Not to take anything away from the Seahawks’ 26-20 overtime victory against Denver, but if there’s anything we’ve learned from the NFL of late, it’s this: What’s fair got to do with anything in this league? And the more the rules change, the less we trust that justice is truly being served.

After Denver rallied from a 14-point deficit in the fourth quarter on the road in the NFL’s rowdiest stadium, the silence of stunned Seahawks fans was deafening as quarterback Peyton Manning represented the Broncos on the coin flip to determine which team would get the football to begin overtime.
Manning called tails.
The Seahawks won.
NFL overtime rules are stupid.

“It puts a premium on the coin toss,” Manning said. “I called tails at the beginning of the game, and went with it again in overtime. It was heads, and it proved to be a significant call. But that’s the way it is. And you’d like to not leave it to that, leave it to get to that situation.”
Manning was forced to stand and watch as Seattle marched 80 yards for a touchdown on the opening possession of overtime. No doubt, Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson was fantastic on the game-winning drive. When a fierce 6-yard run by Marshawn Lynch gave sudden death to Denver’s remarkable comeback, Broncos linebacker Nate Irving and his defensive teammates were so emotionally stunned their feet no longer seemed to work. They stood near the goal line, nobody wanting to go home.
Did this qualify as a moral victory after the 43-8 blowout in the Super Bowl? Knighton certainly didn’t want a juice box and a condescending pat on the head. “You either win or you lose ... We’re not saying, ‘At least the score is better than the Super Bowl’ or anything like that,” Knighton insisted.

Manning has become known in Denver, thanks to imaginative T-shirt makers and excitable fans, as PFM. Maybe I’ve finally figured out what those three letters mean: Pray for miracles.
In the hands of Manning, miracles happen.
While the NFL’s most beautiful mind was stumped by the Seahawks for the vast majority of four quarters and Denver’s offensive game plan appeared so simplistic you might have wondered if it had been written in crayon, Manning willed the Broncos 80 yards in the final 59 seconds of the fourth quarter to tie the game, despite the hindrance of no timeouts to stop the clock.

Manning hit a wide-open Jacob Tamme with a 26-yard pass for the touchdown, then found Demaryius Thomas against Seattle cornerback Richard Sherman to convert the essential two points after the TD.
Prayer answered.

“That’s what makes him Peyton Manning,” said Wilson, with obvious respect for one of the NFL’s elder statesmen. “That’s what makes him one of the best quarterbacks ever to play the game.”

Then, however, Manning was forced to sit and watch overtime. Maybe NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should have bought Manning a pretzel and beer. In 2012, the league amended its overtime rules to allow each team to possess the ball at least once in the extra period, unless a touchdown is scored on the opening drive by the lucky bums who win the coin flip.
That’s stupid. Let’s simplify the rules: If the teams have fought into an overtime, haven’t both teams earned the right to touch the football at least once?

Yes, Tim Tebow gave Denver fans one of the biggest playoff thrills in franchise history by beating Pittsburgh in overtime on an 80-yard bolt from the blue.
But has Hollywood ever required Denzel Washington or Harrison Ford to sit out the last reel when things got dicey and the audience prayed for a miracle from the movie’s hero?
“We’re not going to change the rules,” said Broncos cornerback Chris Harris Jr. “But I would’ve liked our chances if we got our ‘O’ back out there.”
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:05 PM   #31
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Denver should have won that game. Either call it a tie at the end of regulation or let both teams have the ball.

What I saw this afternoon was a travesty.
Why?!?!?

The OT rules are not brand-new.

There is nothing wrong with the OT rules, Denver did NOT deserve a possession, it was NOT a travesty, and Seattle won the game.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:06 PM   #32
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Denver should have won that game. Either call it a tie at the end of regulation or let both teams have the ball.

What I saw this afternoon was a travesty.
No Denver should not have won that game.

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Old 09-21-2014, 09:07 PM   #33
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Maybe we could leave the overtime rules the way they are, but the coaches and players switch roles. It would be cool to see Emmitt Thomas play cornerback again.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:07 PM   #34
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This is exactly why the NFL would never adopt the NCAA rule.
Although the way the NFL is trending, maybe that's what they want.

Seriously though... a side effect of going to college OT rules would be the destruction of fantasy football. Imagine the first time some dude lost a thousand bucks because his defense allowed 42 points in a double OT game.
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:08 PM   #35
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How about each teams kicker kicks 5 field goals from the 50 and whoever makes the most wins? Great idea, huh huh?
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:08 PM   #36
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Why?!?!?

The OT rules are not brand-new.

There is nothing wrong with the OT rules, Denver did NOT deserve a possession, it was NOT a travesty, and Seattle won the game.
So if this rule ever fires back on the Chiefs, at home, in a playoff loss, I'll be sure to say "We did NOT deserve a possession!"
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Old 09-21-2014, 09:09 PM   #37
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That doesn't happen so much anymore as now you have to go for TDs after like the 2nd round or something.
No, you have to go for a 2 point conversion starting with the 3rd OT. You can kick FGs on any possession. That's always been the case.
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I just looked. Seattle had 10 drives in regulation. Out of those 10 drives, Denver's defense was able to prevent a touchdown 8 times.

We're not talking about an impossible task here. Under the old rules, the coinflip-FG was annoying, but a coinflip-TD should not be something we should be worried about.

If Denver's defense fails to do something they did 8 out of 10 times, they deserve to lose without a possession.
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So if this rule ever fires back on the Chiefs, at home, in a playoff loss, I'll be sure to say "We did NOT deserve a possession!"
If you let someone ram it down your throat with the game on the line, then no, you don't. Losing by a FG could be considered cheap, but not a TD.
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So if this rule ever fires back on the Chiefs, at home, in a playoff loss, I'll be sure to say "We did NOT deserve a possession!"
We can't make rules based on what happened to your own team recently.

Touchdowns are not so incredibly damned hard to stop that we need to expect that the poor overmatched defense is incapable of preventing it. The current OT rules are objectively fine as they are, regardless of who they help or hurt next week or any week.
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If you let someone ram it down your throat with the game on the line, then no, you don't. Losing by a FG could be considered cheap, but not a TD.
Technically that is exactly what the Broncos did to the Seahawks right before they went into overtime. So...
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Why are both teams entitled to a possession? They played 4 full quarters and had plenty of chances to score again. This is a tie where neither team is really entitled to a win, and we just need a reasonable way to break the tie.

It seemed cheap when a coinflip-FG could win it, but if you can't stop a TD, then thats good enough for me to declare a winner.
True, but sometimes both defenses are terrible, so the team that wins the toss has a better chance to win.
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Denver should have won that game. Either call it a tie at the end of regulation or let both teams have the ball.

What I saw this afternoon was a travesty.
How long have you been watching football?

In the not so distant past the Seahawks would have started centering the ball on the field around the 30 yard line for a field goal.

You sound like a sniveling child.
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Denver should have won that game. Either call it a tie at the end of regulation or let both teams have the ball.

What I saw this afternoon was a travesty.
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