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Old 07-22-2014, 03:00 PM  
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Guess which offensive lineman had the worst blown block rate in 2013 (min. 500 snaps)

Hint: he's a high draft pick.

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Old 07-22-2014, 04:23 PM   #31
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10 sacks and a -7.7 PFF grade last year. I wouldn't say he did too well.
Best of the group, no?
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:24 PM   #32
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That's such a bullshit cop-out.

Look at the players selected after Fisher. There's a lot of super talented players that did pretty well as rookies.

No one forced them to take the dipshit from North Dakota State School for the Deaf and Blind. The talent was out there, they just chose poorly.
There is truth here.

Lotululei, Sheldon Richardson, Vaccaro, and Eric Reid had fantastic rookie years at positions in which we had/have need.

I'm not giving up on Fisher just yet, though.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:24 PM   #33
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Yeah, pretty shitty year for rookie tackles:

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2013 All-Rookie Team, Tackles

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...l-rookie-team/

Tackles: David Bakhtiari, GB (LT) (-6.9) and D.J.Fluker (RT) (+0.4)

When Bryan Bulaga went down before the season started the worst was feared, but after a slow start in pass protection Bakhtiari’s performances improved significantly. He’ll need a lot of improvement in his run blocking, though, if he intends to keep his job on Bulaga’s return. Fluker’s grade may look OK, but when you factor in that he was forced to play left tackle for 289 snaps and take out those performances (where he did struggle), you see a grade of +11.1 at right tackle alone. That would see him just squeezed out of the Top 10 RT’s in football.

Honorable Mention: Justin Pugh (NYG) & LaAdrian Waddle (DET)
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:25 PM   #34
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Best of the group, no?
Arguable. Fisher allowed 3 less sacks than Johnson, and his pass blocking efficiency was only 0.1 points lower (Fisher graded at 92.1, Johnson at 92.2).
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:26 PM   #35
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Speaking of OT and bust rate I know one that won't be because he's Bloodline II which is Jake Mathews
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:26 PM   #36
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Speaking of OT and bust rate I know one that won't be because he's Bloodline II which is Jake Mathews
Agreed. I think he's a Joe Staley clone. Higher floor and lower ceiling than Fisher.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:27 PM   #37
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Fisher's Grade:

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Grade: -17.3

Snaps: 810

Analysis: It’s been a tough rookie year for Fisher who ended the year our fourth lowest ranked right tackle on the year. The better news is in the past five weeks he’s earned a +2.6 grade and after his baptism of fire on the right side of the line has taken a step forward. Does he end up on the left side? His fate will be tied to what the Chiefs do with Branden Albert.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:27 PM   #38
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32 teams would have picked either Joeckel or Fisher had they been in the same position as Chiefs lasst year.

Fisher wasnt some reach like Tyson Jackson who was projected to go the back half of the 1st round.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:34 PM   #39
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There is truth here.

Lotululei, Sheldon Richardson, Vaccaro, and Eric Reid had fantastic rookie years at positions in which we had/have need.

I'm not giving up on Fisher just yet, though.
BUT IF WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THEM AT ONE OVERALL YOU'D HAVE BEEN PISSED!!!!
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:36 PM   #40
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This is stupid. Fisher will be just fine.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:42 PM   #41
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This is stupid. Fisher will be just fine.
You're needed over in the "Faith" thread.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:48 PM   #42
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This is stupid. Fisher will be just fine.
Based on what? His play against Jimmy the chemistry major at Central Michigan?
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:49 PM   #43
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Based on what? His play against Jimmy the chemistry major at Central Michigan?
Jake from State Farm?
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:51 PM   #44
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Most lineman drafted in the 1st round always dominate in their rookie season. (sarcasm).

Was he improving is the real question.
Ryan Clady didn't give up a single sack his rookie year, Jake Long made the Pro Bowl in his rookie year.
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