Chiefs Is the shine on Andy Reid already tarnished a bit? - Page 3

Rexx · 01-05-2014, 03:38 PM

I am still reeling from one of the worst Chief losses in history and I've seen most of them as a fan of 30 years. I like to think I've got pretty good intuition and here is my worry...

It was nice to see Andy Reid turn the ship around so quickly. I don't think any of us envisioned such a quick turnaround, restoring hope to the fan base and putting people in the seats. That being said, I'm concerned that Reid could likely loose control of this ship pretty quickly if things don't progress from this point.

1. Reid obviously has little understanding of clock management. Yes, we heard that from Philly fans...but witnessing it first hand takes any of the doubt away. Up 28, he needs to attempt to burn some clock to limit the Indy possessions. Many issues throughout the season...there has to be someone who can help him with this.

2. He is extremely loyal to his players and assistant coaches. Because of that, we will likely not see any changes to the staff as he has already mentioned. Sorry Reid, but after that kind of meltdown and getting trashed by national media, a change to the defensive coordinator position should be made. Being stuck with Sutton for the next several years is not going to take us to the next level. As mentioned numerous times on this forum, Sutton is unwilling to make changes or bring pressure when needed...he coaches scared! And it appears Reid will allow this to continue as he had 8 weeks to help change it and did not. NOT A GOOD SIGN AT ALL.

3. Reid has always been known as a "players" coach. He doesn't lay blame and players seems to like that. However, I question his ability to motivate his players especially on the defensive side of the ball. You never see any of the coaching staff show much emotion nor the players. Andy sits back staring at his play calling chart and that's about it. Maybe he has a few of the Marty speeches down, but I don't see it on the field. I also know this was a concern in Philly as he didn't always hold his players accountable when looking at results and effort aka Kendrick Lewis.

4. His general lack of commitment to the run. I'm all for passing as it's a passing league. However, when 1st and goal on the 4 yard line...run the damn ball. GEEZ.

I hope I'm wrong, but these issues are pretty alarming and makes me question if Reid is the long term answer even though he won 11 games this year. Things are going to get tougher...he needs to improve or he will sink eventually. My 2 cents.....

I'm starting to think we should have looked at a young, up and coming coach instead of a retread with proven faults. Some may say this is an overreaction coming one day after a playoff loss...but these things have been apparent for the last 8 games. Anyone else feel this way?

R8RFAN · 01-05-2014, 04:03 PM

Reid is a good coach, he took you from total shit to the playoffs in one year.

MichaelH · 01-05-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Eagles fans probably laughed their asses off while watching our game yesterday.

They did. Three good friends are Eagles fans. I heard "I told you so" about 20 times last night.

I'm not ready to throw Andy Reid into the street yet. I'd like to see an improved secondary and wide receivers next year. If certain positions are upgraded and the same result happens, the tarnish will be off.

**Easy 6** · 01-05-2014, 04:05 PM

I'm fine and dandy with Andy... but, and I didnt want to have to say it, Sutton needs to go, he doesnt adjust worth a DAMN, we've seen the second half slide ALL year and he seems to lack creativity.

The pressure/sack drought is maddening, theres plenty of talent here to do better... and I'm dead sick of his monkeying around with Powe, barely playing Catapano and refusing to sub guys in to keep the starters fresh.

We can do better than this guy.

Hammock Parties · 01-05-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

I'm gonna go outside and lay in the snow.

I was about to suggest you kill yourself, so good show.

Iconic · 01-05-2014, 04:07 PM

Lol CP is so much more enjoyable with these dramatic overreactions... God I love losing.

rabblerouser · 01-05-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers

alex Smith is a good qb, he took you from total shit to the playoffs in one year.

fixed yer post

Sure-Oz · 01-05-2014, 04:08 PM

Chiefs should fire Reid if they go 0-4 in preseason in 2014

RippedmyFlesh · 01-05-2014, 04:08 PM

The only thing that bothers me about Reid is play calling when we are in short yardage situations near the goal line. Going for fg's with less than a yard for a td. He runs wide open O then goes all Herm in the redzone.

rabblerouser · 01-05-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

I was about to suggest you kill yourself, so good show.

I was on that trip about 5:50PM last night - I thought about slitting my wrists and laying in the bathtub, but I chose to finish watching the Chiefs instead.

Big Poppa Payne · 01-05-2014, 04:10 PM

Reid is good, he's a 1000 times better than Romeo Crennel, Todd Haley and Herm Edwards.

Marcellus · 01-05-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelH

They did. Three good friends are Eagles fans. I heard "I told you so" about 20 times last night.

I'm not ready to throw Andy Reid into the street yet. I'd like to see an improved secondary and wide receivers next year. If certain positions are upgraded and the same result happens, the tarnish will be off.

Like Eagles fans ever lost a playoff game in that fashion.

Thats like saying I told you so to them after they lost to NO.

HMc · 01-05-2014, 04:16 PM

Can't believe his being ruled out due to concussion has some people thinking Charles' legacy will be tarnished. There are some genuinely thick people on this board.

**MahiMike** · 01-05-2014, 04:18 PM

Too early for this.

philfree · 01-05-2014, 04:23 PM

No tarnish for me. I see a DV era type of improvement on offense coming next year. I find that exciting.

Prison Bitch · 01-05-2014, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by npayne1978

Reid is good, he's a 1000 times better than Romeo Crennel, Todd Haley and Herm Edwards.

He's now tied with those two for all time playoff wins in KC at 0-1. Let's hope he can outdo them.

01-05-2014, 03:38 PM
Rexx Seeing Red! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NM, USA Casino cash: $10005814	Is the shine on Andy Reid already tarnished a bit? I am still reeling from one of the worst Chief losses in history and I've seen most of them as a fan of 30 years. I like to think I've got pretty good intuition and here is my worry... It was nice to see Andy Reid turn the ship around so quickly. I don't think any of us envisioned such a quick turnaround, restoring hope to the fan base and putting people in the seats. That being said, I'm concerned that Reid could likely loose control of this ship pretty quickly if things don't progress from this point. 1. Reid obviously has little understanding of clock management. Yes, we heard that from Philly fans...but witnessing it first hand takes any of the doubt away. Up 28, he needs to attempt to burn some clock to limit the Indy possessions. Many issues throughout the season...there has to be someone who can help him with this. 2. He is extremely loyal to his players and assistant coaches. Because of that, we will likely not see any changes to the staff as he has already mentioned. Sorry Reid, but after that kind of meltdown and getting trashed by national media, a change to the defensive coordinator position should be made. Being stuck with Sutton for the next several years is not going to take us to the next level. As mentioned numerous times on this forum, Sutton is unwilling to make changes or bring pressure when needed...he coaches scared! And it appears Reid will allow this to continue as he had 8 weeks to help change it and did not. NOT A GOOD SIGN AT ALL. 3. Reid has always been known as a "players" coach. He doesn't lay blame and players seems to like that. However, I question his ability to motivate his players especially on the defensive side of the ball. You never see any of the coaching staff show much emotion nor the players. Andy sits back staring at his play calling chart and that's about it. Maybe he has a few of the Marty speeches down, but I don't see it on the field. I also know this was a concern in Philly as he didn't always hold his players accountable when looking at results and effort aka Kendrick Lewis. 4. His general lack of commitment to the run. I'm all for passing as it's a passing league. However, when 1st and goal on the 4 yard line...run the damn ball. GEEZ. I hope I'm wrong, but these issues are pretty alarming and makes me question if Reid is the long term answer even though he won 11 games this year. Things are going to get tougher...he needs to improve or he will sink eventually. My 2 cents..... I'm starting to think we should have looked at a young, up and coming coach instead of a retread with proven faults. Some may say this is an overreaction coming one day after a playoff loss...but these things have been apparent for the last 8 games. Anyone else feel this way?
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	The only thing that bothers me about Reid is play calling when we are in short yardage situations near the goal line. Going for fg's with less than a yard for a td. He runs wide open O then goes all Herm in the redzone.
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