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Over-Head · 07-30-2010, 09:58 AM

sorry if re-post

Before first snap, Jason Campbell named Oakland Raiders' No. 1 QB

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b56vs

Jason Campbell was named the Raiders' starting quarterback on Wednesday by coach Tom Cable on the eve of his team's first training camp practice in Napa.

Cable included the caveat that this assumes Campbell stays healthy throughout camp and holds off challenges from Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye and Kyle Boller.

The Raiders traded for Campbell during the NFL draft in April and saw enough of him during offseason workouts to determine that he was the best option to succeed departed quarterback JaMarcus Russell.
Cable said the decision was made easy because Gradkowski was sidelined the entire offseason as he recovered from surgery to repair a torn pectoral muscle.

"The first thing people are going to want to ask is, 'Where is Bruce and (how do) the other guys fit in terms of competition and all that?' " Cable said. "Bruce hasn't done anything for the last three months. He'll catch up and he'll get himself up to speed and he'll go out and battle and all that. But, as we move forward (this) morning and go to practice the first time, Jason will be in that first huddle."

Cable had plenty more to say, suggesting that his team could wind up playing in the Super Bowl at Cowboys Stadium on Feb. 6.
"What's in front of us is winning a championship," Cable said Wednesday at a news conference on the eve of his team's first training camp practice in Napa. "That's the goal now. Let's go for it."
The Raiders were 5-11 last season, but Cable feels the team he has assembled is primed for more than its first winning season since 2002.

"I know we're going to be a good team, and I'm not afraid to say that," Cable said. "We're going to go after the AFC West. I'm not afraid to say that."

For now, Cable intends for Campbell to lead the Raiders.
Gradkowski supplanted Russell as the starting quarterback nine games into last season, and he provided an instant upgrade to the league's worst-ranked passing attack. Yet, it's back to being a backup until further notice.
Gradkowski resumed throwing in recent weeks and is expected to participate in the Raiders first practice this morning. But he will have to wait until Monday to test his arm in a team setting because Cable intends to use the first four days — eight practices — for "intensive learning" drills that don't include much contact or full-scale plays.

The Raiders play their first exhibition game in Dallas on Aug. 12.
Notes: First-round draft pick Rolando McClain still hasn't signed a contract. Cable said negotiations are ongoing and that it's possible McClain will be under contract and at practice today. "... Langston Walker is the projected starter at right offensive tackle, Cable said. Cornell Green held down that job the past three seasons before signing with the Buffalo Bills via free agency this offseason. "... The Raiders formally announced the hiring of Craig Dickenson as assistant special teams coordinator.

He joined the team in April and will work under John Fassel.
Dickenson last worked for the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League. "... The Raider Nation Celebration is slated for Aug. 27 at Frank Ogawa Plaza in Oakland from 4-6 p.m.

Ugly Duck · 08-01-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

It is San Diego's division to lose

True... but they do have some important holdouts. And Merriman just hasn't been the same after going off the roids.

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TheGuardian · 08-01-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

NO one wants them to be good at least no Chiefs fans, but some of us realize that they have some good players and they can be good. I wouldnt be shocked if they took the Division this year. They have some really nice players on that team.

With that being said, i hope they finish last. lol

Who? That team isn't any more talented than the Chiefs. The Raiders have sucked for a long time for a reason.

Jason Campbell isn't a difference maker and was traded away for a reason. The guy is as scary as fighting a 12 year boy with high estrogen levels.

Ugly Duck · 08-01-2010, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

The guy (Campbell) is as scary as fighting a 12 year boy with high estrogen levels.

That's why we're so excited.... he's better than Jamarcus!

**RealSNR** · 08-01-2010, 06:37 PM

I would take Jason Campbell over Matt Cassel right now.

Let that not be as much of an insult towards Matt Cassel as it is a compliment to Jason Campbell. He's quite good, and had he had some competent leadership in the front office/coaching ranks, he could have had a much more illustrious NFL career than he's had up to this point.

TheGuardian · 08-01-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

I would take Jason Campbell over Matt Cassel right now.

Let that not be as much of an insult towards Matt Cassel as it is a compliment to Jason Campbell. He's quite good, and had he had some competent leadership in the front office/coaching ranks, he could have had a much more illustrious NFL career than he's had up to this point.

Campbell is not quite good at all. I'm guessing you've never watched him play. I know your response will be that you have, but if that's the case then you just don't know much about football.

**RealSNR** · 08-01-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Campbell is not quite good at all. I'm guessing you've never watched him play. I know your response will be that you have, but if that's the case then you just don't know much about football.

For the shit hands that he's dealt, he does a remarkable job. He takes care of the football, doesn't get injured (at least not the past couple seasons) and has a passer rating in the mid 80s the past two years.

All that with no line, no running game, a reerun for a head coach, a new playbook every season, all while trying to figure out and learn the game himself. It's not like he's a grizzled veteran trying to produce these numbers.

I HAVE seen him play. I've seen him have shit games. I've also seen him deliver the ball with accuracy and make smart decisions on the field. He's better than you think, and if you think he sucks, then (uhp... wait for it...) you don't know much about football at all.

Woah, see what I just did there? I can play that reeruned game too.

Hootie · 08-01-2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Campbell is about the perfect example of a league average QB.

He does some things well, he does some things poorly.

He works hard and seems to have the respect of his teammates.

I'd take him over Cassel anyday and I suspect that will be established in all its glory this season.

That's funny.

If Campbell were my choice over Cassel I'd rather just let Brodie throw the ****ing football...

Campbell is a nothing.

Cassel has more upside and a better work ethic than Campbell...and if you don't think that's true than you're an idiot.

Aries Walker · 08-01-2010, 08:03 PM

Having the advantage of living in the DC area, and listening to every morning-drive talk-radio and news-channel sports-dude talk about nothing but Campbell for the last three years, my opinion is that he's just not that great. He's good, but not great; he's apparently a super-nice guy (odd fit for the Raiders), but he's maddeningly inconsistent.

If nothing else, it will be fun to see the Raider Nation repeatedly call for his head on a pike after Campbell lays an egg against someone like the Rams.

Ugly Duck · 08-01-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Cassel has more upside and a better work ethic than Campbell...and if you don't think that's true than you're an idiot.

I can't find one derogatory statement about Campbell's work ethic anywhere on Google. Do you have a link for me?

TheGuardian · 08-02-2010, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

For the shit hands that he's dealt, he does a remarkable job. He takes care of the football, doesn't get injured (at least not the past couple seasons) and has a passer rating in the mid 80s the past two years.

All that with no line, no running game, a reerun for a head coach, a new playbook every season, all while trying to figure out and learn the game himself. It's not like he's a grizzled veteran trying to produce these numbers.

I HAVE seen him play. I've seen him have shit games. I've also seen him deliver the ball with accuracy and make smart decisions on the field. He's better than you think, and if you think he sucks, then (uhp... wait for it...) you don't know much about football at all.

Woah, see what I just did there? I can play that reeruned game too.

Apparently you can't.

He had a very good line while he was there for one. With Jansen anchoring one side while Samuels did the other.

Second, in 07 and 08 Portis went for 1262 and 1487 yards rushing.

So how did he have no running game? And even with a good line and solid ground game he was still mediocre to poor. And we're not talking about a second year guy 08 was his 4th year in the league.

Like I said, you don't know what you're talking about.

MOhillbilly · 08-02-2010, 07:54 AM

i watched campbell play from day one. kid has skills. anyone who says diffErent is ****ing reeruned.

TheGuardian · 08-02-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

i watched campbell play from day one. kid has skills. anyone who says diffErent is ****ing reeruned.

Well he's in the NFL so he has some skills. Is he a GOOD QB? No. He's the walking definition of average NFL quarterback.

MOhillbilly · 08-02-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

Well he's in the NFL so he has some skills. Is he a GOOD QB? No. He's the walking definition of average NFL quarterback.

maybe hes average cause the kids had 5 diffrent OC and systems. Facts are he has good vision, a good feel for the pocket, can run and has a rocket for an arm.

TheGuardian · 08-02-2010, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

maybe hes average cause the kids had 5 diffrent OC and systems. Facts are he has good vision, a good feel for the pocket, can run and has a rocket for an arm.

If he were that good he's not traded from a QB starving team, that just traded for a twilight years McNabb ok? This whole "we're scared of how good Campbell is" thing is ****ing stupid. The guy is average. Done.

MOhillbilly · 08-02-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

If he were that good he's not traded from a QB starving team, that just traded for a twilight years McNabb ok? This whole "we're scared of how good Campbell is" thing is ****ing stupid. The guy is average. Done.

man you dont know shit about washingtons owner and what a crazy **** he is.
done.

07-30-2010, 09:58 AM
Over-Head Boom, Boom , Crash Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: In my shed Casino cash: $9995760	Campbell it is sorry if re-post Before first snap, Jason Campbell named Oakland Raiders' No. 1 QB http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b56vs Jason Campbell was named the Raiders' starting quarterback on Wednesday by coach Tom Cable on the eve of his team's first training camp practice in Napa. Cable included the caveat that this assumes Campbell stays healthy throughout camp and holds off challenges from Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye and Kyle Boller. The Raiders traded for Campbell during the NFL draft in April and saw enough of him during offseason workouts to determine that he was the best option to succeed departed quarterback JaMarcus Russell. Cable said the decision was made easy because Gradkowski was sidelined the entire offseason as he recovered from surgery to repair a torn pectoral muscle. "The first thing people are going to want to ask is, 'Where is Bruce and (how do) the other guys fit in terms of competition and all that?' " Cable said. "Bruce hasn't done anything for the last three months. He'll catch up and he'll get himself up to speed and he'll go out and battle and all that. But, as we move forward (this) morning and go to practice the first time, Jason will be in that first huddle." Cable had plenty more to say, suggesting that his team could wind up playing in the Super Bowl at Cowboys Stadium on Feb. 6. "What's in front of us is winning a championship," Cable said Wednesday at a news conference on the eve of his team's first training camp practice in Napa. "That's the goal now. Let's go for it." The Raiders were 5-11 last season, but Cable feels the team he has assembled is primed for more than its first winning season since 2002. "I know we're going to be a good team, and I'm not afraid to say that," Cable said. "We're going to go after the AFC West. I'm not afraid to say that." For now, Cable intends for Campbell to lead the Raiders. Gradkowski supplanted Russell as the starting quarterback nine games into last season, and he provided an instant upgrade to the league's worst-ranked passing attack. Yet, it's back to being a backup until further notice. Gradkowski resumed throwing in recent weeks and is expected to participate in the Raiders first practice this morning. But he will have to wait until Monday to test his arm in a team setting because Cable intends to use the first four days — eight practices — for "intensive learning" drills that don't include much contact or full-scale plays. The Raiders play their first exhibition game in Dallas on Aug. 12. Notes: First-round draft pick Rolando McClain still hasn't signed a contract. Cable said negotiations are ongoing and that it's possible McClain will be under contract and at practice today. "... Langston Walker is the projected starter at right offensive tackle, Cable said. Cornell Green held down that job the past three seasons before signing with the Buffalo Bills via free agency this offseason. "... The Raiders formally announced the hiring of Craig Dickenson as assistant special teams coordinator. He joined the team in April and will work under John Fassel. Dickenson last worked for the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League. "... The Raider Nation Celebration is slated for Aug. 27 at Frank Ogawa Plaza in Oakland from 4-6 p.m.
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08-01-2010, 06:37 PM	#34
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $1810208	I would take Jason Campbell over Matt Cassel right now. Let that not be as much of an insult towards Matt Cassel as it is a compliment to Jason Campbell. He's quite good, and had he had some competent leadership in the front office/coaching ranks, he could have had a much more illustrious NFL career than he's had up to this point.
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08-01-2010, 08:03 PM	#38
Aries Walker Back again, again. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $9583357	Having the advantage of living in the DC area, and listening to every morning-drive talk-radio and news-channel sports-dude talk about nothing but Campbell for the last three years, my opinion is that he's just not that great. He's good, but not great; he's apparently a super-nice guy (odd fit for the Raiders), but he's maddeningly inconsistent. If nothing else, it will be fun to see the Raider Nation repeatedly call for his head on a pike after Campbell lays an egg against someone like the Rams.
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08-02-2010, 07:54 AM	#41
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	i watched campbell play from day one. kid has skills. anyone who says diffErent is ****ing reeruned. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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