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Old 10-07-2008, 12:52 PM  
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How could anyone believe that Herm Edwards can deliver a Superbowl to KC?
I don't mean to come off as a troll - at least not in this thread. But this question confounds me, especially in light of the fact that there seem to be quite a few Herm defenders here (Hermines? srsly). What exactly has Herm demonstrated in his career that could lead anybody to believe that he's capable of running the kind of organization that can win a Championship? The guy seems like he would be a FANTASTIC defensive coordinator to me. But I just don't understand what he's ever done to make anyone believe that he can maintain a consistent football team, let alone navigate the playoffs and deliver a championship.
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Old 10-07-2008, 01:58 PM   #31
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Our team is full of Herm players, and they are also young young Herm players. They will have up and down games on matter who we have coaching. I however do think there are guys who would do better than Herm, and at the same times there are people who would be doing worse(I know hard to imagine). However I do want Carl/Herm and co gone after this year. It really would be a good team for someone to take over. The team is full of young guys, a lot of them will have some experience after this year and the new organization should have high draft picks to work with and a newly remodeled facilities.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:00 PM   #32
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Herm was hired to get the Chiefs into the playoffs. and he did, even though they had a better record under Vermeil the year before. he followed that up with an atrocious display in the Indy playoff game where the Chiefs didn't get a 1st down until late in the 3rd quarter against that 85 Bears defense the Colts had in 2006.

He's a fraud that's being exposed now. one of his biggest supporters and staunchest defenders was htismaqe. what happened to him?
I have to admit, you were right. You knew. I feel so stupid.

So, who's coaching the Jets next year?
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:00 PM   #33
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I don't know why anyone thinks he's:

A good judge of talent.(I give Kucharich(sp) most of the praise for this recent draft)

A good defensive mind

A good head coach

There is absolutely 0 proof to support any of these claims.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:02 PM   #34
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:02 PM   #35
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In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.
Well ... you have a point, Mr. RustShack. As for me (and I think most Planeteers), I was and remain fully prepared for losses ... even embarrassing ones. You're quite right that inconsistency will be the hallmark of a team loaded with young players. There are only two things I want to see; The first is improvement in a particular area week to week. It could be the DBs, the LBs, the Oline, the WRs, whatever. I expect it to be inconsistent - in other words, the DBs might look better one week and the RBs the next - I just look for some aspect of the team to improve. The second thing I want is that they never, ever, ever quit. I want to see them fight and scrap and gouge and kick until the final click of the clock ... even when they're losing.

When neither one of those things happen, you have a problem - and it's not necessarily with the players. Last year, for example, we had games in which several of the players seemed to quit on Herm. I think we saw a little of that in Carolina, as well. That's troubling.

I think about this, too; We've had a problem defensing the run for a long time. Plenty of time, in my view, for Herm and Gunther to address the issue. There's only so much "they didn't play their gaps properly" that you can stomach before you realize that, if they aren't playing their gaps, the coaches need to teach them how. Stuff like that bothers me.

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Old 10-07-2008, 02:03 PM   #36
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I have to admit, you were right. You knew. I feel so stupid.

So, who's coaching the Jets next year?
The Jets have to win the next 3 games. then we'll see how this play's out.

How'd you like that washed up old man?
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:03 PM   #37
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Name one area of the team that was not decaying when he took over as HC?
True, but come on....the guy is in his 3rd year now. At some point you have to stop blaming everything on the previous administration.

Think about where the team was at in DV's 3rd year..

Im thankful to Herm for cleaning out the trash of older vets, but we have yet to see any sort of "real" improvement overall.

So far, that 2006 draft looks like a huge disappointment.
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:04 PM   #38
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I have to admit, you were right. You knew. I feel so stupid.

So, who's coaching the Jets next year?
There are a lot of us who were right. D2112 was the oracle that allowed us to see behind the curtain. But anyone who was a fan when Marty was here knew what we were getting.
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The Jets have to win the next 3 games. then we'll see how this play's out.

How'd you like that washed up old man?
You're enjoying the season, aren't you?

I have to admit, it must be kind of cool. Glad I got Coles on my fantasy team.
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You're enjoying the season, aren't you?

I have to admit, it must be kind of cool. Glad I got Coles on my fantasy team.
Favre is great at going through his progressions. those TD passes he threw against Arizona were the 2nd, 3rd and 4th receivers he looked at. it's amazing when you go from pathetic to that at QB overnight.
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Favre is great at going through his progressions. those TD passes he threw against Arizona were the 2nd, 3rd and 4th receivers he looked at. it's amazing when you go from pathetic to that at QB overnight.
I actually played against Favre, but won because I had Kurt "airing it out ALL DAY LONG" Warner and Coles.
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Sorry TJ I don't know anyone on here that thinks Herm can win a SB.
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In all fairness its really hard to expect any coach to win a lot of games with a team like this rebuilding... I knew everyone would back the rebuild during the offseason even though they knew this would happen... but when the season actually happens all hell breaks loose. Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites to me.
sure, but even so, he's not motivating the players and that's the real sign of a good leader/coach - and the team is only getting worse
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I actually played against Favre, but won because I had Kurt "airing it out ALL DAY LONG" Warner and Coles.
So WPI is just a side job? You are actually an NFL player? Yet you still can't get laid?
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his first year, when he managed to win like 7 games out of 8 with a backup QB and a team that had very little talent, I approved of the job he was doing.

after the playoff game in Indy, I knew Herm hadn't evolved, and this was not going to end well because the team was crumbling and he and Carl weren't good enough in the draft to fix it.
i think you are a ****ing tard.
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