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Old 12-29-2014, 01:15 AM  
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Want to fix the offensive line next season? Stop looking to the draft

This means you, Saccopoo.

Do you really want Andy Reid and John Dorsey to build the future of this line? Given their histories with the Packers and Eagles, these two dildos wouldn't be able to scout out a good offensive lineman if Sandra Bullock provided them with all of the protective instincts scores.

**** using high draft picks to get our guys. I'm sick and ****ing tired of investing top draft stock and getting back Jeff Allens and Jon Asamoahs. And don't tell me that Andy Reid and John Dorsey are any better at finding good linemen than Pioli. Their histories indicate otherwise.

Free agency is where it's at. Spend the money to get a halfway decent starter at LG. Use one or two middle round picks to draft some depth. Profit.

I will bump this thread every time some ****ing moron talks about depending on the draft for our 2015 offensive line. We're the Chiefs. We're not going to get a rookie who will be nails for us instantly. And that's what we need. So work around it.

Problem solved. Adequate OL achieved. Mission accomplished.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:33 PM   #31
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Let's fix the line by not re-signing the only talented lineman we have.
I would do it for the sake of continuity and the fact that Hudson is actually pretty good, but I don't think that Dorsey will. There has to be a reason why they refuse to try Kush anywhere else along the OL when he clearly has the talent to play judging from what little we've seen of him, and instead continue to groom him at the Center position. They are going to move on from Hudson.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:35 PM   #32
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I would do it, but I don't think that Dorsey will. There has to be a reason why they refuse to try Kush anywhere else along the OL when he clearly has the talent to play, and instead continue to groom him at the Center position. They are going to move on from Hudson.
It's an interesting theory I had not considered. I think they will set a price... offer it.. and move on, if Hudson refuses it.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:36 PM   #33
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Re-sign Allen for cheap. Bulk Fisher up. Re-sign Hudson. We will have 2 spots left at two unimportant positions. Sorry, but I would rather bring in cheap competition at the two right spots and settle for Fulton and Harris worst case scenario.

If this were monopoly... Fine. But paying high coin for OL when we have Houston, Poe, Parker, berry and other contracts looming, for me, is nuts.

Agree that Dorsey has to step it up at OL. It is clearly the area where his scouting so far has been complete shit.
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Old 12-29-2014, 12:41 PM   #34
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You know, if they drafted Alex Mack, Russell Okung, Rod Hudson, Zane Beadles and Gabe Jackson like I wanted, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Or we could have kept Albert and drafted players like Max Unger and Kraig Urbik and still had a good offensive line without using all the major draft picks like you wanted.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:09 PM   #35
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The OL coach needs to be gone.

The line hasn't improved and you'd have to think the input from him had to play into letting the guys walk that we didn't retain and that we didn't make moves to upgrade the talent on the OL.

What has he done to keep his job?
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:11 PM   #36
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Hate that I agree with Black Bob.. But I think the writing is on the wall for Hudson hitting FA.
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Re-sign Allen for cheap. Bulk Fisher up. Re-sign Hudson. We will have 2 spots left at two unimportant positions. Sorry, but I would rather bring in cheap competition at the two right spots and settle for Fulton and Harris worst case scenario.

If this were monopoly... Fine. But paying high coin for OL when we have Houston, Poe, Parker, berry and other contracts looming, for me, is nuts.

Agree that Dorsey has to step it up at OL. It is clearly the area where his scouting so far has been complete shit.

Parker and Berry?

Berry is likely done and Parker can **** right off his he's asking for anything substantial.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:14 PM   #38
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Parker and Berry?

Berry is likely done and Parker can **** right off his he's asking for anything substantial.
The team should commit money to playmakers. If not berry, then a receiver or a guy who can make plays on defense. Even without berry, the Chiefs have lots of bigger contracts to start thinking about. I hate the idea of spending top much money on linemen when an adequate line will usually do just fine.
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Parker and Berry?

Berry is likely done and Parker can **** right off his he's asking for anything substantial.
Yep.. Parker wants big money? just keep Kurt Coleman for cheap. No one should want Parker at CB anyway.
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Yep.. Parker wants big money? just keep Kurt Coleman for cheap. No one should want Parker at CB anyway.
I doubt he will want big money. It's curious to me that people would rather throw money at a lineman versus a guy who can play safety, nickel, even the 2 corner adequately well. Yeah, if he asks for too much, can him. But I would much rather keep him since he was part of a secondary that played really well.

And Coleman starting in parkers place is one of the worst ideas I've heard. He's fine for depth. That's it.
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The team should commit money to playmakers. If not berry, then a receiver or a guy who can make plays on defense. Even without berry, the Chiefs have lots of bigger contracts to start thinking about. I hate the idea of spending top much money on linemen when an adequate line will usually do just fine.

Obviously I could be wrong but I think Parker is the kind of guy you let walk if he starts asking for too much.

Like I said, and I hate to say it, Berry is probably done. We have to be prepared to move on without him.

Shore up the offensive line, add playmakers on offense, and try and fill a few holes on the defensive side however we can.
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I wonder what we'll do at ILB..
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I doubt he will want big money. It's curious to me that people would rather throw money at a lineman versus a guy who can play safety, nickel, even the 2 corner adequately well. Yeah, if he asks for too much, can him. But I would much rather keep him since he was part of a secondary that played really well.

And Coleman starting in parkers place is one of the worst ideas I've heard. He's fine for depth. That's it.

I think keeping Hudson is pretty imperative. He's the only lineman we have that's worth a shit.

Yeah, Fisher could be pretty good next year and possibly even Fulton, although I wouldn't hold my breath. Allen will come back and be serviceable probably but remember last year he was probably the biggest goat outside of Fisher.
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Obviously I could be wrong but I think Parker is the kind of guy you let walk if he starts asking for too much.

Like I said, and I hate to say it, Berry is probably done. We have to be prepared to move on without him.

Shore up the offensive line, add playmakers on offense, and try and fill a few holes on the defensive side however we can.
This defense is a player or 2 away from being a legit top 3 defense. I would rather invest there. We are more likely to win with a seahawks model than a Packers model.
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Starting quality left guards are really expensive in free agency.

Good ones get silly money.

Iupati will probably get 7million per
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