Chiefs Are the Cowboys simply trolling the Non-True-Fan Chiefs Fans? - Page 3

Pitt Gorilla · 12-09-2016, 11:52 PM

The Dallas Cowboys have spent the past five years putting together a dominant offensive line (Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick, and Zack Martin are all Pro-Bowl first rounders, and they took a chance on La'el Collins). This year, they took a running back in the first round to round out their running game. Looking for a long-term replacement for their undrafted FA starting QB, they took a QB in round 4, who has now led their team to an 11-1 record.

In other words, they've executed the True Fan playbook (draft fatties early and QBs late) to perfection and are now succeeding due to it.

Mecca · 12-10-2016, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

As much as this will piss off SNR, the Chiefs need to go the true fan way early (unless a QB is available). The division is full of pass rushers.

Look at the Oakland game vs Denver. They ran the same ****ing play 10X in the 2nd half. They ran it up the ****ing gut and crushed Denver's soul. I want a massive G like Kelechi Osemele.

It makes sense too considering we all know Alex is the QB here for at least 2 more years and a good OL/running game is vital to have success with him.

Those super expensive linemen are going to be a problem when Carr and Mack get paid...

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fahrenheit

Agreed.

Sincerely,
Big Ben

Big Ben didn't go to the Super Bowl as a rookie.

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

The division is full of pass rushers.

Sounds frightening. I guess we should do whatever it takes if we want to be undefeated in the division.

Oh... wait...

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

As much as this will piss off SNR, the Chiefs need to go the true fan way early (unless a QB is available). The division is full of pass rushers.

Look at the Oakland game vs Denver. They ran the same ****ing play 10X in the 2nd half. They ran it up the ****ing gut and crushed Denver's soul. I want a massive G like Kelechi Osemele.

It makes sense too considering we all know Alex is the QB here for at least 2 more years and a good OL/running game is vital to have success with him.

And look, I get that we could stand to upgrade our LG, but you can't just draft fatties just to draft them. You gotta have the right one. Do you think Reid wants another Danny Watkins on his hands?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

And look, I get that we could stand to upgrade our LG, but you can't just draft fatties just to draft them. You gotta have the right one. Do you think Reid wants another Danny Watkins on his hands?

Ehinger was far superior to Fulton and there's no reason to believe that he won't be just as good (if not better, due to experience and upper body strength) after recovering from ACL surgery.

Again, with the extra comp picks (and Dorsey's propensity to move around in the draft), I think the Chiefs are looking for depth at the guard position, not a starter, which once again, will happen somewhere between the 4th and 6th round.

PunkinDrublic · 12-10-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fahrenheit

You can only luck into a Dak, if you try. Andy has drafted 2 QB's the last 2 years. At least he's somewhat trying. Would obviously like to see a higher level of investment though (1st\2nd).

Gotta keep trying.

The QBs we drafted didn't light it up in the pre season like Dak did. That's no slight on our guys because Dak is an extremely rare exception. Sometimes guys come into the league and things just click faster than expected.

RunKC · 12-10-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ehinger was far superior to Fulton and there's no reason to believe that he won't be just as good (if not better, due to experience and upper body strength) after recovering from ACL surgery.

Again, with the extra comp picks (and Dorsey's propensity to move around in the draft), I think the Chiefs are looking for depth at the guard position, not a starter, which once again, will happen somewhere between the 4th and 6th round.

Agreed.

I think multiple OL will be taken in this upcoming draft, not in the 1st round though.
Fulton and LDT are both FA's after next year and I think we could see Dorsey using the same model GB used this year adding multiple OL to groom for a year.
Also the "6th lineman" is now really popular and we've been using it. I would love to have a massive athletic OL to use in those situations.

I trust Dorsey and Andy to find guys. Morse was a great pick and Ehinger looked pretty damn good this year when he played.

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Agreed.

I think multiple OL will be taken in this upcoming draft, not in the 1st round though.
Fulton and LDT are both FA's after next year and I think we could see Dorsey using the same model GB used this year adding multiple OL to groom for a year.
Also the "6th lineman" is now really popular and we've been using it. I would love to have a massive athletic OL to use in those situations.

I trust Dorsey and Andy to find guys. Morse was a great pick and Ehinger looked pretty damn good this year when he played.

Okay. So you're comfortable with the way the Chiefs are handling the offensive line.

Then why did you throw out that weird, "The Chiefs need to go True Fan way early" bullshit earlier in this thread?

Mecca · 12-10-2016, 11:03 AM

They may do 1 guard and 1 tackle but they seem to like having atleast 1 guy with experience on the bench so I don't see Jah Reid going anywhere.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-10-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Also the "6th lineman" is now really popular and we've been using it. I would love to have a massive athletic OL to use in those situations.

Jah Reid is under contract through the 2018 season and barring injury, that seems to be his role at this time.

**Easy 6** · 12-10-2016, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

Anybody wanna bet the Cowboys don't make the Super Bowl?

Rookie QBs don't go to the Super Bowl. It doesn't happen. It never has.

Theres a first time for everything, and it looks like if any rookie could pull it off... its Prescott

I've been calling for him to hit a wall for weeks, for some good coordinator to finally confuse him, pick and sack him to death... and it just keeps not happening

They're as safe a bet to make the super bowl as any NFC team IMO, whos going to stop them?

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 11:10 AM

#NeverDeCastro #NeverWarmack #NeverIrving #NeverMartin

Mecca · 12-10-2016, 11:14 AM

Odd how Warmack is the only one that blows...rule of thumb avoid Alabama players, almost none of them have panned out.

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2016, 11:14 AM

You know what pisses me off?

I've actually been calling for the Chiefs to draft a real OT for the past 2-3 years. Not some asshole that they move to guard. An honest to goodness OT. A swing tackle. A guy who's not going to get ****ed up if Fisher or Schwartz goes down (I still can't believe Jah Reid is our backup LT... the thought of that is horrifying to me).

They haven't done it. A few times I found a guy I REALLY liked in the 1st round. They still haven't done it.

I'm not opposed to athletes who play offensive line. I'm opposed to fatties (interior linemen) in the first round. I'd like to avoid them in the 2nd as well, but I understand that sometimes you just gotta.

Mecca · 12-10-2016, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

You know what pisses me off?

I've actually been calling for the Chiefs to draft a real OT for the past 2-3 years. Not some asshole that they move to guard. An honest to goodness OT. A swing tackle. A guy who's not going to get ****ed up if Fisher or Schwartz goes down (I still can't believe Jah Reid is our backup LT... the thought of that is horrifying to me).

They haven't done it. A few times I found a guy I REALLY liked in the 1st round. They still haven't done it.

I'm not opposed to athletes who play offensive line. I'm opposed to fatties (interior linemen) in the first round. I'd like to avoid them in the 2nd as well, but I understand that sometimes you just gotta.

Mitch Schwartz is in all reality the backup LT, but if you want a "swing" tackle that's a 4th round pick not a 1st round pick.

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12-10-2016, 11:14 AM	#43
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