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Old 10-17-2017, 08:54 PM  
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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate
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NFL endorses criminal-justice reform bill in the midst of anthem debate

By Karoun Demirjian and Beth Reinhard
The Washington Post
October 16



The National Football League, still in political crosshairs over whether players should take a knee during the national anthem, is throwing its weight behind another cause in Washington’s debate over racial inequality: criminal justice reform.

The NFL’s spokesman said on Monday that the league has decided to endorse a bipartisan bill to reduce mandatory minimum sentences for low-level drug offenders, eliminate “three-strike” provisions that require life sentences and give judges more latitude to reduce sentences for certain low-level crimes.

“We felt that this was an issue over the last months, as we have continued to work with our players on issues of equality and on issues of criminal justice reform, that was surfaced for us, and we thought it was appropriate to lend our support to it,” NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart said Monday during a conference call with reporters.

The owners appear to be seeking middle ground between football players and their critics during a heated national debate over the growing phenomenon of players kneeling during the national anthem to protest police brutality and racial inequality. It is not clear what effect the NFL’s effort will have on that debate — or on President Trump, who has fueled much of the vitriol against kneeling players through his personal and official Twitter accounts.

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So, hoping to curry favor with the players who are kneeling, the NFL is endorsing a piece of soft-on-crime legislation. The optics of that are amusing.

Goodell's winking and nodding at the kneeling players will probably just encourage them to take it further, not make them respect the country again. The NFL will not be better off for bowing to them. Look at Mizzou.

The NFL doesn't seem to understand what's happening here at all. Fans do not want the NFL to be political. Fans are not going to be amused by Roger Goodell wading into politics. ESPN has already made this mistake by becoming another politicized media outlet... it's fascinating that Goodell thinks the way to resolve the fan ire over this conflict is to make the NFL more political.
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:00 PM   #31
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
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Old 10-17-2017, 10:00 PM   #32
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So ****ing true. The criminal justice system in this country is...well, criminal. This country needs a lot of things changed/fixed and the criminal justice system should be at the top of the list. If the average person knew what it was it was really like they would be outraged.

It's become a cash cow and the people cashing in will fight this bill to the end.

The very first job I had after returning from Viet Nam (before I re-enlisted) was a jail guard at the Jefferson County Jail in Louisville KY. That place was the biggest shithole on the face of the earth. They have since built a "modern" version of a jail.

Seriously, if you can imagine a dungeon in some castle in the 12th century - you would be close. I quit after 6 weeks. I have never seen such a place (even after the jungles of the A Shau Valley) in my life. Hell, I was afraid that if I stayed there, I would wind up as an inmate.

While I agree with your assertion _ I always go back to that old TV Show with Robert Blake and the theme song: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
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"The NFL neither supports or condemns the views of its players."
Yes they do. They sent that Miami player to "sensitivity training" for his comments on Michael Sam.
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I imagine the NFL is doing it as part of an agreement to get the NFL players to stand during the anthem. The NFL agrees to throw it's weight behind issues of equality and the players agree to stand during the singing of the national anthem.

It's not that the league doesn't understand why people are angry, it's that the league is in an untenable situation. They have huge Africa American employee pool and they have a huge number of fans that are angry about the protest. No win situation, so they are trying to negotiate a compromise.

A certain portion of the fans will still be mad because they want the players to be brought to heel on the situation and any compromise won't be good enough.

Wrong. Goodell ripped Trump after he won, saying he didn't know how he'd explain to his daughters how Trump was elected.


There was NO possible benefit for him to wade into politics there. There was no conceivable explanation for his stupidity
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So ****ing true. The criminal justice system in this country is...well, criminal. This country needs a lot of things changed/fixed and the criminal justice system should be at the top of the list. If the average person knew what it was it was really like they would be outraged.

It's become a cash cow and the people cashing in will fight this bill to the end.
Corporations lobbying for practically free prison labor. ****ed up.
Prison unions lobbying for higher sentencing and more incarceration - more prisoners means more prison jobs, more prisons
A booming prison trade show market that profits off of hawking prison supplies to a growing prison population
Booming private prison industry that profits off of growing prisoners


There is so much dirty money. And we've created a cycle that we almost can't stop. We keep building new prisons, employing new prison labor, ordering prison supplies from business and the only way to keep those prisons cost efficient and those workers employed is to arrest more and more people. And yet most people don't even realize this whole thing is happening. It's nuts.
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Yes they do. They sent that Miami player to "sensitivity training" for his comments on Michael Sam.
That should be the response and it was in a more sane time.
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Yes they do. They sent that Miami player to "sensitivity training" for his comments on Michael Sam.
Unless I'm mistaken, that had nothing to do with Michael Sam.
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Why would you get butt hurt over this? Because nothing says "hard on crime" and justice like giving some mother****er life for peddling weed? You concerned about a crime wave by getting rid of 3-strikes laws?

This polls up there with shit like, "is pediatric brain cancer bad?"
Most of this board lives in the rural Midwest. Says it all really.
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Most of this board lives in the rural Midwest. Says it all really.
And that's why we want that unAmerican racist Peters gone!
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And that's why we want that unAmerican racist Peters gone!
Peter's could celebrate Hitler I don't give a **** as long as he's out there making plays.
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The very first job I had after returning from Viet Nam (before I re-enlisted) was a jail guard at the Jefferson County Jail in Louisville KY. That place was the biggest shithole on the face of the earth. They have since built a "modern" version of a jail.

Seriously, if you can imagine a dungeon in some castle in the 12th century - you would be close. I quit after 6 weeks. I have never seen such a place (even after the jungles of the A Shau Valley) in my life. Hell, I was afraid that if I stayed there, I would wind up as an inmate.

While I agree with your assertion _ I always go back to that old TV Show with Robert Blake and the theme song: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"

It's not just the 'Doing the time', that's a small part of it. Our criminal just system is screwed from beginning to end, outside to inside.
Every aspect of it is ****ed.
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Link for the 1st time weed offender who serving life for having a dime bag. Or GTFO...
Did he say first time offender? There are thousands of people serving life sentences for the 3 strike rule when their last conviction was something trivial like possession of a controlled substance or wreckless driving. It is pretty well documented. The 3 strike rule was put in place to keep the labor camps full.

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That's exactly what everyone wants.

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