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Old 03-09-2004, 08:57 AM  
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Hundreds help remove anti-Semitic graffiti (guess what's to blame...)

DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- About 300 people of different faiths turned out to clean up a synagogue vandalized with swastikas and Nazi symbols on the eve of the Jewish holiday Purim.

So many people showed up Sunday at BMH-BJ Congregation, where vandalism had been discovered the day before, that people had to stand in line for a turn with a brush and a can of paint thinner.

"This is a place for everyone," said Doug Mix, who is not a member of the congregation. "That is why everyone is here. There are Christians, Jews, Muslims and people who are not religious. We all came out here because America is still America, and we don't tolerate this."

A custodian for the synagogue discovered about 10 markings when he arrived Saturday morning. Purim was celebrated Saturday night and Sunday. Police had not made any arrests by Monday.

Holocaust survivor Fanny Starr saw the graffiti Saturday morning.

"I was just shaking and broke down," she said. "All the wounds, the old wounds starting open again."

Rabbi Daniel Cohen said the vandalism may have been sparked by Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ," which just finished its second weekend as the No. 1 movie in the country. The movie, which some believe wrongly blames Jews for the death of Christ, has been criticized as anti-Semitic.

Elise Zakroff said she was sure the film inspired the graffiti.

"What Mel Gibson did is terrible," Zakroff said. "It is happening all over. We are tired of anti-Semitism. All we want is peace."

Shortly after the movie opened, a Denver pastor outraged Jews and Christians with a sign outside his Lovingway United Pentecostal Church that read "Jews Killed The Lord Jesus."

He said the sign was inspired by Gibson's film and later put a sign of apology.

In 2002, anti-Semitic incidents rose 8 percent nationwide over the previous year, according to the Anti-Defamation League. Colorado had 35 anti-Semitic incidents.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:10 AM   #31
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I'll bet in reality, the movie moved MORE people to come down and clean that up than anything.
Great point.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:14 AM   #32
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Gee your calling her a broad is a nice treatment of a holocaust survivor. Excellent way to show you respect their suffering.
Fanny Starr was the holocaust survivor. Elise Zakroff was not mentioned being even old enough to be in Germany, let alone a survivor. Zakroff was the one quoted blaming the movie.

Excellent way to show your reading comprehension skills.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:18 AM   #33
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Fanny Starr was the holocaust survivor. Elise Zakroff was not mentioned being even old enough to be in Germany, let alone a survivor. Zakroff was the one quoted blaming the movie.

Excellent way to show your reading comprehension skills.
Maybe she was on the Survivor show?
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:20 AM   #34
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Fanny Starr was the holocaust survivor. Elise Zakroff was not mentioned being even old enough to be in Germany, let alone a survivor. Zakroff was the one quoted blaming the movie.

Excellent way to show your reading comprehension skills.
Still not a nice way to show respect for someone of that faith abused by the crime. Also do you know for certain she is not?
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:23 AM   #35
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Still not a nice way to show respect for someone of that faith abused by the crime. Also do you know for certain she is not?
Stretching a little early this morning, Jim? Does your workout also include jumping to conclusions and reaching for plausibilities?

The proper response is "I was wrong. You caught me trying to be an ass again, and I failed."
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Maybe she was on the Survivor show?
Or at least a regular viewer.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:24 AM   #37
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Still not a nice way to show respect for someone of that faith abused by the crime. Also do you know for certain she is not?


Really, is there anything in his post that is that bad? C'mon. Sure, it was a terrible thing to have that place vandalized but, her comments were out of line, IMO.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:25 AM   #38
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Maybe she was on the Survivor show?
I heard that last week, she may have really freaked out when the fat neked alternative lifestyle guy touched her with his doofloppy.
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Old 03-09-2004, 10:27 AM   #39
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Really, is there anything in his post that is that bad? C'mon. Sure, it was a terrible thing to have that place vandalized but, her comments were out of line, IMO.
It's not the post at all. It was the author. Jim thought he had a chance to blast me and it backfired in his face, again. Thus the "I meant to do that" post after he tripped and looked foolish.
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Stretching a little early this morning, Jim? Does your workout also include jumping to conclusions and reaching for plausibilities?

The proper response is "I was wrong. You caught me trying to be an ass again, and I failed."
No that should been your response regardless of whether I may have made an error. You were caught being an ass and exposed as a negatively biased bigot through the use of the perjorative of 'broad'.
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I heard that last week, she may have really freaked out when the fat neked alternative lifestyle guy touched her with his doofloppy.
Sorry, I overestimated the 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' audience, here. In this week's episode, Larry's Rabbi asked if he could bring a friend to dinner, and that the friend was a survivor. Larry said sure. Then he asked a friend of his father's who as a holocaust survivor to come and meet with the Rabbi's friend. Then the Rabbi brings Colby from Survivor to the dinner and the two 'survivors' argue over who had it harder.

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Old 03-09-2004, 10:33 AM   #42
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Really, is there anything in his post that is that bad? C'mon. Sure, it was a terrible thing to have that place vandalized but, her comments were out of line, IMO.
He was showing being disrepectful through the use of the term Broad, Russ anti-semitic bias was clearly shown and he is attempting to deflect it over my error.
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He was showing being disrepectful through the use of the term Broad, Russ anti-semitic bias was clearly shown and he is attempting to deflect it over my error.
Now you are just being a dick. Really, is it that hard to admit you were stupid and wrong? What do you base my anti-semitism upon? I hope you can support your claims because if not, it just makes you look even more stupid.
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He was showing being disrepectful through the use of the term Broad, Russ anti-semitic bias was clearly shown and he is attempting to deflect it over my error.
Who figured Logical for a group therapy puzzy? Grow a pair, dude.
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Now you are just being a dick. Really, is it that hard to admit you were stupid and wrong? What do you base my anti-semitism upon? I hope you can support your claims because if not, it just makes you look even more stupid.
No, it was you being an anti-semitic asshole and you did not like being called on it. I must admit it is giving me great pleasure exposing this side of your less than stellar character. So in that sense I guess I am being a dick.
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