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Old 03-09-2019, 11:35 PM  
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:58 PM   #31
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That franchise is emploding with a dumbass coach and getting a 3 &5 for essientally Brown and Bell.
They will eventually land a 3rd round comp for Bell. But yeah, 2 3's and a 5 is a horrible return for two high end talents.

Right now I'm not concerned in the slightest, because Carr won't get the most out of him. On the otherhand, I really do think they're gonna get Kyler Murray and who knows what to expect.
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:59 PM   #32
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If they get Murray I personally think it will be a disaster

Maybe some success early on, but nothing sustainable.
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Old 03-09-2019, 11:59 PM   #33
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:00 AM   #34
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They will eventually land a 3rd round comp for Bell. But yeah, 2 3's and a 5 is a horrible return for two high end talents.

Right now I'm not concerned in the slightest, because Carr won't get the most out of him. On the otherhand, I really do think they're gonna get Kyler Murray and who knows what to expect.
Well see I think Brown would make Carr a better QB.

On another note I've been critical of Veach but hes flipped Smith for a 2 and Fuller and will likely get atleast a 2 for Ford. Hes gotten more for lesser players than what the Steelers got. Shit forgot Peters too.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:00 AM   #35
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If they get Murray I personally think it will be a disaster
Not a great influence to put on a young QB I’d say.

The pressure of Gruden and a whiny receiver who wants 10+ targets a game? Good luck kid. That doesn’t even take into account the possibility of Bell.
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Old 03-10-2019, 12:01 AM   #36
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Well see I think Brown would make Carr a better QB.

On another note I've been critical of Veach but hes flipped Smith for a 2 and Fuller and will likely get atleast a 2 for Ford. Hes gotten more for lesser players than what the Steelers got. Shit forgot Peters too.
I think the best use for Brown would be deep passing, which isn't something Carr likes to do. I don't think Gruden likes Carr much though.
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Well see I think Brown would make Carr a better QB.

On another note I've been critical of Veach but hes flipped Smith for a 2 and Fuller and will likely get atleast a 2 for Ford. Hes gotten more for lesser players than what the Steelers got. Shit forgot Peters too.
Yea a 2nd for Peters doesn’t seem so bad now when you look at what Brown got and how Peters played and carried himself in 2018.
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Yea a 2nd for Peters doesn’t seem so bad now when you look at what Brown got and how Peters played and carried himself in 2018.
My first thought as well
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My first thought as well
It felt worse having to wait a year, but I’m glad we have it now.
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Yea a 2nd for Peters doesn’t seem so bad now when you look at what Brown got and how Peters played and carried himself in 2018.
To play devils advocate I think we make the super bowl had Peters played and maybe if Berry were healthy but that's revisionist history talking. Its clear Veach has a plan for the defense and we will see if it gets executed. Just please for the love of god get an impact player in the draft.
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I think the best use for Brown would be deep passing, which isn't something Carr likes to do. I don't think Gruden likes Carr much though.
Ya Carr is likely gone. I think the Raiders got better with this deal and can challenge for 2nd depending if Rivers declines.

This trade would worry me if Alex Smith was still our QB but yanno...
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To play devils advocate I think we make the super bowl had Peters played and maybe if Berry were healthy but that's revisionist history talking. Its clear Veach has a plan for the defense and we will see if it gets executed. Just please for the love of god get an impact player in the draft.
Keeping him simply wasn’t an option after the shit he did and then asking for a trade
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They flipped Cooper, 3 and 5 for Brown and 1st essentially

Looks good on paper but I have a feeling the honeymoon will end quickly for Brown in Oakland. Of course they do have a lot of ammo to play with to turn things around but mastering the draft with all those picks is easier said than done.
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Keeping him simply wasn’t an option after the shit he did and then asking for a trade
Absolutely. He was done once he acted the way he did in New York. I have no criticism for Veach in how he handled all of that.
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