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Old 12-02-2014, 02:01 PM  
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Big XII is run by unscrupulous fools

Baylor and TCU might be co-champs, despite Baylor winning head-to-head

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But as it currently sits, if No. 7 Baylor beats Kansas State Saturday, they would be conference's champions because Baylor beat TCU earlier this season. Because as everyone knows, in absence of a championship game, league winners are always decided first by conference record and second by head-to-head outcomes should teams have the same record. But since Baylor is rated lower than TCU, and therefore less likely to make the final four to get into the playoff, the conference will award "co-champions" so that the committee can choose which Big 12 team they think is better.

Only if TCU and Baylor are both left out of the top four would the league acknowledge Baylor's head-to-head win over TCU.

In other words the conference is saying: If TCU is rated in the top four, we'll forget Baylor beat them. But if TCU and Baylor fail to make the top four, we'll remember Baylor beat them.
Read full article: http://deadspin.com/big-12-announces...ons-1665741360

Edited to appease KC native because it's a huge deal and will improve the direction of discourse henceforth.

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Old 12-02-2014, 03:52 PM   #31
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You are stupid.

They are co-champions because they have identical conference records (which is how the rules are written). The tiebreaker only applies to their automatic bowl tie-ins. The playoff is not an auto tie-in. If TCU and Baylor are left out of the playoff, then Baylor gets the auto-bid and TCU would get an at-large bid from whatever bowl.

What part of that isn't clear to you?
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In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the College Football Playoff
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Old 12-02-2014, 03:59 PM   #32
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You must be one of the reeruned BayLOL fans.

The tiebreaker only applies to the auto tie-in.

The CFP committee is under no obligation to take a conference champion.

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Old 12-02-2014, 04:03 PM   #33
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That was a direct quote from their website. I have absolutely no ties to Baylor, but I find the Big XII's neurosis incredibly odd in light of their "One True Champion" bullshit.
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:09 PM   #34
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That was a direct quote from their website. I have absolutely no ties to Baylor, but I find the Big XII's neurosis incredibly odd in light of their "One True Champion" bullshit.
I see you completely lack an ability to read and comprehend.

The Big 12 voted for no tiebreakers for conference champs (it helps coaches get paid more since they will be conference champs easier).

Nothing has changed about this since the Big 12 dropped to 10 teams.

The only neurosis, with regards to this, is yours.
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:16 PM   #35
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K-State just needs to beat Bible Aggie and ISU needs to upset the frogs like they did Okie lite a few years back. Then K-State wins the conference out right and this is a non-issue.
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:18 PM   #36
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I see you completely lack an ability to read and comprehend.

The Big 12 voted for no tiebreakers for conference champs (it helps coaches get paid more since they will be conference champs easier).

Nothing has changed about this since the Big 12 dropped to 10 teams.

The only neurosis, with regards to this, is yours.



November 9

What changed?

This is what is being argued. Not that your conference recognizes co-champs, but its policies on tie-breakers and statements about the CFP prior to this week were different.
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Old 12-02-2014, 04:20 PM   #37
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Isn't this similar to when KU was declared the North co-champion in 2007?









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Old 12-02-2014, 04:21 PM   #38
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The Big 12 is begging the conference to put Ohio State in if they win. The smallest conference is naming multiple teams champions.

Congrats to 20% of the Big (sic) 12 (sic). You're the one (sic) true (sic) champion (sic).
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The Big 12 is begging the conference to put Ohio State in if they win. The smallest conference is naming multiple teams champions.

Congrats to 20% of the Big (sic) 12 (sic). You're the one (sic) true (sic) champion (sic).


This is ****ing hilarious.
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November 9

What changed?

This is what is being argued. Not that your conference recognizes co-champs, but its policies on tie-breakers and statements about the CFP prior to this week were different.
some lawyer figured out it is better to not name a sole champ
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some lawyer figured out it is better to not name a sole champ
It's not too late for the SEC to declare all 14 teams co-champions.
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It's not too late for the SEC to declare all 14 teams co-champions.
actually it is
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November 9

What changed?

This is what is being argued. Not that your conference recognizes co-champs, but its policies on tie-breakers and statements about the CFP prior to this week were different.
The conference clarified it.


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The conference clarified it.


3. Weeks. Later.
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It's not too late for the SEC to declare all 14 teams co-champions.
That's the most likely way MU gets to fly a SEC Champ banner next fall.
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