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Old 10-30-2012, 06:24 PM   #1
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM   #2
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM   #3
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:38 PM   #4
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okay. Manning was bombing the Saints with great passes, making a bunch of no name receivers famous, which as far as I know of Manning, is what he always does.

Stanzi was brain farting his way through 3rd string defenses the entire pre season and his passes were not on target more often than they were it seemed to me. He had poor decisions during every outing and through a few picks, perhaps one every outing.

And I like Stanzi, liked the pick. But he is going to need at least one more pre season before he's ready.

I expect he will play this season though, so we shall see who is right.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:08 AM   #5
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Stanzi was brain farting his way through 3rd string defenses the entire pre season and his passes were not on target more often than they were it seemed to me. He had poor decisions during every outing and through a few picks, perhaps one every outing.
Most of this is revisionist history. I'm not going to apologize for Stanzi but his play was tons better than what is implied here. Most of his passes WERE on target but his receivers did him no favors at all. Most Stanzi detractors have judged his entire preseason based on a failed 4th down conversion attempt during which he had a defender on him 3 steps into his drop. He scrambled desperately and eventually was tackled and fumbled. Several planeteers questioned why he didn't throw the ball away... despite the fact it was 4th down. Sure, he had a couple of bad passes but he completed 50% of his throws and had 6 drops in <20 attempts. I don't think any QB can save this franchise under the current circumstances but Stanzi is in no way complete garbage like this board would lead us to believe. But I don't blame people here for their frustration. Any player who has proven nothing but is still hyped eventually leads to haters. Rightfully so. It doesn't really matter who is behind center for this team right now. RGIII would look like crap too. But it would be more interesting watching Stanzi lose than it is watching Cassel or Quinn at this point.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:58 PM   #6
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Funny thing is this goes all the way back to before the season. Romeo was asked about Daboll's offense favouring more of a downfield attack and that this was not a strength of Matt Cassel, and his response was something to the tune of "well, a 20 yard pass downfield could be considered a long throw too." It was bizarre.

I'm not sure what happened, but that hire of Daboll made little sense based on what we have here. Cassel sucks, but what we are seeing here from him this season as well as from the rest of the team are players that are matched up with coaches who have no clue how to even squeeze out a competitive half of football from these guys...
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:12 PM   #7
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Cassel sucks, but what we are seeing here from him this season as well as from the rest of the team are players that are matched up with coaches who have no clue how to even squeeze out a competitive half of football from these guys...
That's what happens when you hire guys simply because they're part of the Patriot Tree.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:12 PM   #8
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Interesting to read, but I already knew the fix.

Fire all these worthless bastards, draft Geno. Win.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:32 PM   #9
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Translation:

Stanzi wants to throw deep more and that will hurt him and if he is to become an effecient passer, he needs to make the 10-25 yard passes his bread and butter.

Cassel is just fine keeping it under 10 yards and that hurts the offense in lots of indirect ways
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:35 PM   #10
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I kind of took it more as Stanzi doesn't understand his limitations
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:53 PM   #11
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Thats what I've been saying since day one and it's valid and a double edged sword. He has the same mentality Brett Favre did that he thinks he can fit any pass into any window and tries to be overly aggressive with his reads. It's why a lot of us called him Brett Favre light.

That same trait would give us a lot of 3 and 4 touchdown games that he also throws 2 picks in. He can definitely win games for you, but on the other hand can also lose them for you, too.

It's the same stuff he did as a junior, but went away from as a senior...showing he is coachable and has the ability to not make those difficult reads when it starts to hurt the team.

We haven't lead in a single game yet, what could it possibly hurt to put the kid out there and let him make some mistakes and see how he bounces back...it's not like Cassel doesn't turn the ball over in bunches...at least Stanzi would make some plays.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:35 PM   #12
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We haven't lead in a single game yet, what could it possibly hurt to put the kid out there and let him make some mistakes and see how he bounces back...it's not like Cassel doesn't turn the ball over in bunches...at least Stanzi would make some plays.
That.

Even after ALL of this, even as it continues to get worse in EVERY possible way, from the GM to the merchandise retailer... they're still going to shove Matt back out there?... in hopes of saving what? another one or two games?

Stanzi looked bad in preseason? so what, he might be forever ruined by being thrown to the wolves in a bad year? so what... if he's a player, he can play and he'll be fine... if not, no big deal, another fifth rounder isnt hard to come by.

Start Stanzi, right now... the only thing worse than that, is NOT doing that.
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Come on, how can anyone take these articles seriously?

He used to post here when the site was started and at the old Star forum. He's always been a good dude.

But trying to glean more from that is ludicrous.
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Come on, how can anyone take these articles seriously?

He used to post here when the site was started and at the old Star forum. He's always been a good dude.

But trying to glean more from that is ludicrous.
Who's trying to glean anything? This is a sound analysis.

He says what Romeo doesn't have a ****ing clue about.

This was like watching a Harry Plinket review of our coaches, QBs, and why the 2012 Chiefs are such an abortion.
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