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Old 04-06-2017, 11:27 AM  
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***** Official 2017-2018 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread *****
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:41 PM   #4173
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:41 PM   #4174
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:42 PM   #4175
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Some of it is on KU. We were crawling back into it and then they got 3 straight possessions puking up offensive rebounds and they pushed it to 20. ****ing murdered the momentum.
Yes, some of it is on KU. I'm not claiming Self is pulling off some great coaching moves. I just can't stand it when people pull out the "just got out-coached" card because the other team came out on fire. Its lazy analysis. There' no coaching in this type of game.

When I think of someone getting "out-coached" its in a game where the other team has taken something away. Not because the team does something they're already good at. I don't consider cold or torrid shooting "coaching".
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:42 PM   #4176
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Well you can't be absolutely trash defensively (Iowa State) and win even if you take the most threes. It's why I'm picking the Warriors over the Rockets this year even though Houston is far better analytically in that regard.

That doesn't mean that the strategy to take more threes isn't a sound one and always has been, though. You're right that it's tougher in college, partially due to there being not as many good shooters readily available, but Villanova is obviously intentionally recruiting shooters for exactly that purpose.
Right. But it is damned hard to get guys that can consistently hit 3s to play the Nova is playing. That's why it isn't necessarily just as easy as KU jacking more 3s because math. NOVA is ****ing good. That's why they can do what they do.
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North Carolina lost that game two years ago FYI. Shot threes at a far, far better clip (65%) than Villanova did tonight (47%) and lost.

The difference is strategy and volume, not percentage.
And accuracy. You can't just jack up threes if they're not going in.
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If nothing else, kcc FINALLY gets to say "ha ha ha, I was right!!1!11!"

Only took 5 games.
Oh yeah, because I'm so satisfied KU got blown out in a FF game that Self got badly outcoached in.
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And accuracy. You can't just jack up threes if they're not going in.
45.9%. It's good but it's not all that out line with their season average.
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Oh yeah, because I'm so satisfied KU got blown out in a FF game that Self got badly outcoached in.
I'm generally on your side in things, but you've been waiting for KU to lose to say "told you so."
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Right. But it is damned hard to get guys that can consistently hit 3s to play the Nova is playing. That's why it isn't necessarily just as easy as KU jacking more 3s because math. NOVA is ****ing good. That's why they can do what they do.
It's also why you will probably see a lot of the top programs start more recruiting shooters and playing offensive systems like this. This is almost certainly going to be 2 titles in 3 years playing like this. They're a step ahead of everyone else right now.
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KU ran into a buzzsaw...at their best, I cannot see them winning this game.

I was happy to not lose the 16/1, and making it to final four was unbelieveable.

There's no beating that kind of shooting.

Good year for a small KU team...
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