Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck.

[Hammock Parties]

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

What has he accomplished? Well, he went into Lambeau in the playoffs when no one beat GB and beat them.

GB had 5 Turnovers

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No, the ability to put the team on his back and give them a chance to win is was I'm looking for, not have the rest of the team piggy back the QB. Do you get it now? Because like I've stated before EVENTUALLY he will need to put the team on his back when another aspect of the team faulters. Passing yards(given not garbage time yards) and TD throws/runs are just what happens with a QB puts the team on his back. They aren't holding teams to <10 points a game avg all year.

You put way too much stock in stats. WINS are all that matter. And in the last 3 years Alex Smith has been a winner - and Vick hasn't.

[ayleswbj]

Big C, i do see what your saying about when the time comes, he needs to prove to the fans that he can put them on his back. Years 1-6 I dont think he showed it and also didnt have the personnel to do it. Even when Peyton was a rookie and showed he could do it he still had Harrison, Faulk, Small and a young Pollard. In the last 2 years and even in 2010 Smith showed some flashes of being capable. But you are right, you need to see it with you own eyes while hes in a KC uni. I completely agree with your statement

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by splatbass

You put way too much stock in stats. WINS are all that matter. And in the last 3 years Alex Smith has been a winner - and Vick hasn't.

You know who racks up big stats? Brady, Manning, Brees, Adrian Peterson, Jamal Charles, Megatron, Aldon Smith. Stats usually mean you're a pretty damn good player.

You know who has shown the ability to win? Rex Grossman, Trent Dilfer, Steve Bono, Tim Tebow.

I, myself, like to see both.

You know what you are NOT putting enough stock in? The ability to move the ball. That's sort of a good think in football.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by ayleswbj

Big C, i do see what your saying about when the time comes, he needs to prove to the fans that he can put them on his back. Years 1-6 I dont think he showed it and also didnt have the personnel to do it. Even when Peyton was a rookie and showed he could do it he still had Harrison, Faulk, Small and a young Pollard. In the last 2 years and even in 2010 Smith showed some flashes of being capable. But you are right, you need to see it with you own eyes while hes in a KC uni. I completely agree with your statement

Thanks man. It's a simple concept that people can't or don't want to grasp.

[JENKINSWINS]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Assuming you're not just trolling (I know, big assumption), you should reread the last few days of this thread if you really think the stuff in bold is true or that 21-5 is proof that he can consistently compete with the big boys.

So are you saying you're anti-Smith guy? The guy is 21 - 5 over his last 3 seasons and has been competing his ass off with whoever is in front of him.

I see it like this with Alex and I see it with CK now. The reason the 49ers lost to NY (last year) is because Harbaugh is stubborn and wanted to show them that he could throw against them, knowing all along SF's best way of winning was staying balanced. This showed up again on Sunday against Seattle. I think with Reid it's the opposite, he's going to get the passing game up to speed because that's his forte and can win with that type of game plan. Sure you would like to see more of Jamal running the ball but that's not Reid's game.

With that said, IMO as long as the coach stays true to himself and stick with what he's best at. If it wins with the guys he has on the field, then keep at it. Make you're adjustments if nothing is working. It's a chess game out there and everyone has similar pieces, it's up to the guy that has control of them to make the right moves to win.

[ViperVisor]

[warrior]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

You have to love those stats

[opposition]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

That record is extremely deceiving. He's been along for the ride on most of those victories.

He rode a top record breaking defense. Top record breaking special teams. Top record breaking running game in 2011.

How's Kaepernick doing? Last I checked he was dead last in the RZ, while Alex is 8th. More t.d's, less int's by a lot, better rating, better %, an more wins. Not to mention this Chiefs team only had 2 win, and Alex has done that in 2 games. 7.5-1.5 against division opponents being the last QB to beat Seattle. Mr. Elite is 1.5-3.5 losing to the Rams, SeaHawks twice. Alex had a time he beat the division 8 times straight. And he sucked.

Care to go down this road? Why are you here sucking Alex's balls when your own QB is playing scared against the same team Alex beat not too long ago? Shouldn't you be somewhere else hating on Kaepernick for doing the same shit you hated are hating Alex for? Rolling right, small hands(that critical fumble by Kaep), not hitting open receivers, throwing recievers open, no pocket awareness, can't play under center?

Where are you on that one? Deflecting your anger/homosexualism on Alex again on a Chiefs board.

[ayleswbj]

Ive been watching Smith since his days at Helix, when we all were going to check out this guy named Reggie Bush, so im always gonna follow Smith wherever he goes. Im a different fan of his cuz ive seen almost every game hes ever played, except when he was a freshman and sophmore in High school. There are so many fans that follow him because they started to see that flash with the NINERs your wanting to see. There was so much invested in him many people want to see how the story turns out. Alot of good NFL players have been put in terrible situations and are out of the league. Smith has pushed hard to survive and even succeed. Theres alot of arguing about him on the board, but in just 2 games with the bullets flying you can see how tough an gritty he is. The O-line is not yet jelled yet and he is running for his life out there. When they get their protections together and are playing as one unit, Smith will really thrive. As with any QB with a good line.

[ViperVisor]

Originally Posted by warrior

You have to love those stats

Smith since 2009 has 41 TD passes and 2 INTs in the RedZone

The redzone is where smarts and experience shows most clear.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

GB had 5 Turnovers

Atlanta had no business winning that game. They were huge underdogs and still won. It's regarded as an impressive win.

Right. The same amount of turnovers the 9ers had against NO in the playoffs. Your greatest moment as a Smith fanboy.

The one thing about the Alex fanboys. They try so hard to reduce any success that other QBs have but celebrate the mediocrity of their own guy.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by ViperVisor

Smith since 2009 has 41 TD passes and 2 INTs in the RedZone

The redzone is where smarts and experience shows most clear.

Do you have his TD:FG ratio in those redzone attempts?

[opposition]

Originally Posted by Alex Smiff

Atlanta had no business winning that game. They were huge underdogs and still won. It's regarded as an impressive win.

Right. The same amount of turnovers the 9ers had against NO in the playoffs. Your greatest moment as a Smith fanboy.

The one thing about the Alex fanboys. They try so hard to reduce any success that other QBs have but celebrate the mediocrity of their own guy.

Says the guy that signs up for a Chiefs board to bash the QB with the best winning percentage IN THE ENTIRE NFL since Jimmy Raye left in Sep. of 2010.

[Alex Smiff]

Originally Posted by opposition

How's Kaepernick doing? Last I checked he was dead last in the RZ, while Alex is 8th. More t.d's, less int's by a lot, better rating, better %, an more wins. Not to mention this Chiefs team only had 2 win, and Alex has done that in 2 games. 7.5-1.5 against division opponents being the last QB to beat Seattle. Mr. Elite is 1.5-3.5 losing to the Rams, SeaHawks twice. Alex had a time he beat the division 8 times straight. And he sucked.

Care to go down this road? Why are you here sucking Alex's balls when your own QB is playing scared against the same team Alex beat not too long ago? Shouldn't you be somewhere else hating on Kaepernick for doing the same shit you hated are hating Alex for? Rolling right, small hands(that critical fumble by Kaep), not hitting open receivers, throwing recievers open, no pocket awareness, can't play under center?

Where are you on that one? Deflecting your anger/homosexualism on Alex again on a Chiefs board.

Kaep has done more in 12 starts than Alex has in his entire 8 year career. Why even bring his name up?

I'll tell you one thing. If Kaep plays like a pussy in 2018 you better believe I'll want him off my team.

Compare Alex to his peers, not guys who are just making their mark in the league.